in terms of experience level, to meet the leadership ability, i think it will be great for all of us in terms of improving our ability to operate as a team. a lot of the conventional wisdom, it's chaotic over there and everything else. i'll tell you i'm very proud of our national security team overall, and that's with here -- >> you've seen real chaos commanding in northern korean, you've seen the chaos of war. compared to that, it's not a chuckling matter, when you hear stories of chaos, isn't that kind of absurd compared to the right thing? >> right, right. what we're doing is delivering the greatest strategies based on the president's guidance. what we had -- and i don't mean this in a pejorative sense, but the white house and the national security as part of that became very tactically focused, became very operational, supervising troop numbers and specific authorities and what we've been able to do is involve