washington post and aaron blake senior political reporter joining me on a balcony, lonnie, let me start with you. is that your former boss encouraging alternatives to president trump in 2020. is that how you read it? >> no look, i think he's stating what a lot of people believe to be the obvious. which is there will be a marketplace outside of donald trump. how big that marketplace will be is going to be the big question. but i don't think he is encouraging people to do it. i think he's stating the obvious, which is that someone will present as an alternative to donald trump. the only question is who that will be. >> who do you think it will be? or who should it be, in your view? >> look, i think you have a lot of people, jeff flake, ben sasss some have said, i don't know if it will be any of these people. it may be no one people are thinking of now. there will be an opportunity for somebody to present an alternative vision to donald trump. the problem is donald trump has a 98% approval rating.