and msnbc political analyst robert costa >> -- i'm afraid >> have we lost mike murphy? can you hear us? mike murphy? robert >> i'm here, andrea. why don't you bail me out here and talk about the shutdown. what are you hearing from the sources about whether the president will invoke this emergency procedure which will create legal challenges, but he might have some legal standing, at least, to get past the first court barriers >> we wrote about this in today's post, making a lot of calls sunday to sources, andrea. i got the impression from top officials and advisors to the president now that the shutdown is over you still want -- the president still wants this wall. he's also skeptical of this conference committee on capitol hill that has house members and senate members that will try to meet over the next few weeks to come up with an appropriations deal to fund the wall.