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manhattan district attorney issued indictments against the trump business and against allen weisselberg. >> correct. this is a natural precursor to a possible indictment. it doesn't mean donald trump is going to be indicted by any stretch. that's what they're trying to ask questions about. but in a circumstance like this, if you're law enforcement, you don't just go in. you first ask the people to come in and try and explain themselves. it's really hard to explain themselves when you have the guy on record, on tape recording saying hey, find me 11,780 votes. >> and congressman swalwell, we heard some of the trump defense as a civil defendant any way about that phone call to georgia where he's asking for votes. the trump defense today in court seemed to be, well, when he is president, he can say anything he wants and it is absolutely his right to say anything he wants. >> lawrence, donald trump is meeting the long but slow arm of