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the governor in kyiv. there was the minsk agreement that would have given those territories autonomy but veto power including whether or not ukraine can control nato. that didn't work because frankly the ukranian government didn't want to go along with that play. they didn't want to concede their sovereignty, and you had this stalemate and during the time of stalemate the ukranian population turned more and more against russia and more and more now putin is taking the next logical step saying we're going to declare these as essentially independent areas. he's doing the same thing in two provinces of jaffe, another country he doesn't want to join nato but this feels me not like the end of the story but the very beginning of the russian escalation that uses these two regions is a the justification and pretext for putin to say he needs to protect russian speakers and needs to protect ethnic russians. they are under assault and just as that was the pretext for him