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>> i envision at least two and now there's talk of a third, one involving, you know, taking it away without authority. one involving obstruction, and one potentially involving showing it to others and espionage. but to me it's the strongest case and the strongest aspect of the strongest case. and what bill barr sees is exactly this obstruction right after the point of having received the subpoena. and whether smith, by the way, phrases it in terms of three or four different acts and possibly conspiracy, by the way, depending on people like nauta where one count is sort of incidental, it's a matter of proof but not of sentence. so in very simple terms he knows at this point he must return it. he's told repeatedly at this point that he cannot keep anything that's classified. he knows he has stuff that's classified including in his desk, and he orders people -- that's the dot, dot you referred

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