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they're teaching in florida that slavery was good for blacks because it gave them job skills. it's not like it's just her. he thinks he can own her. he believes the same thing or at least he says he does. >> joy, it is so unsettling to watch nikki haley in that exchange and see her additional exchanges where there's also a but, but, but, or a caveat. i'm a contemporary of nikki haley's in age, also a child of the south. and i know the experience, getting exposed, almost indoctrinated at times that the argument the civil war was about states' rights. but eventually, as you mature and as your brain matures and your heart and soul mature, you realize what a bad faith argument is that you have been exposed to. yes, it was about a state's rights. a state's right to engage and permit human slavery. and ultimately, you reconcile that and realize the civil war was about slavery. i think what is so unsettling to see nikki haley at 51 years old