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armed. they may be coming and immediately seeking entry into a home or to a church or a capitol. people in that home may be frightened. they may be thinking they're having a home invasion. they may pull a gun. as you indicated, some of these have been fatal. we've even had instances of someone suffering a heart attack when police came. so, it's very serious. and in june, the fbi began a nationwide database to collect information. fbi has superior resources often to local officials. and more of the dots need to be connected because often times, sophisticated callers, whether they're domestic or foreign, are able, through technology, to mask their ip addresses, mask their voices, et cetera. it's a significant threat for law enforcement and those who are victims of swatting. >> and clearly one that is a national problem, even though it's often local police who are being called out for these threats. mary mccord, former justice department senior national security official. thank you for your time on this