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may have to resort to violence in order to save our country. am i paranoid and thinking i can imagine those numbers going up over the course of this year? >> no, i think that trump is going to make sure that they go up. this is sort of with trump being somewhat in the background of our national conversation and compared to where he had been for ungodly years. we've become so acculturated to it that it kind of takes new levels of threat and violence to shock people. >> the slowly boiling pot. >> exactly. nobody really bad tonight when you see another story about someone getting swatted, someone calling the police on someone, in a way that eventually somebody, i think, is going to get really hurt. but this is happening, the death threats to the judges and his criminal cases, to jack smith -- >> election workers. >> election workers. right, individual election workers, and we're coming up again on a very close election, that a lot of people believe -- he has led a lot of people to