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he asked, people are appreciating this. they are not sure where it came from. >> how does that message -- how do we connect? that even conservatives, even a conservative like drug baker, who is the editor emeritus of the wall street journal, talked about winners and losers. winner of the year, america's economy. he said, sorry, i know i'm going to upset a lot of people, but as cases all the time, america's economy, joe biden's work on america's economy is the envy of the world. how did we get that message out to voters? >> again, i used to say when i was speaker, i can bake the pie, i can sell the pie, it's hard to bake and sell at the same time. working very hard and now he has to sell it. he has to sell it. again, this is a very