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>> let me ask you about another topic that comes up. i get asked about this a lot. it pops up in polls. it shows in focus groups. you, rob, were a part of, i know not alone, but flipping the dark random mean to make it more of a winner. how do you combat this kind of ongoing attack on his age and these attacks and suggestions that he is not up for the job. >> the american people know joe biden's age. they also know that with that age comes wisdom, experience, judgment. that is why they elected him in the first place. they would also say that those qualities that in stark contrast to everybody else on the other side. particularly as it relates to donald trump. >> there are three different things i think about. one, the dark brand stuff works because yes it is funny. yes it is sort of meme the. it is based on that truth. >> the aviators with thanks shooting out of them. i don't know if he responsible to, that that was my favorite. >> we are not responsible for