republicans. they say they want new blood. granted there are more democrats than republicans, so when you talking about the party in power our party is definitely in bigger trouble. but again, i think there's a much deeper frustration and anger going on here than just partisanship. >> pat, what do you think that number reflects? >> well, i think it reflects a sense of despair about the country. it's very bad news. karen is right. it's been growing for years. but it's very bad news this coming fall because contrary to what karen said, 80 seats in play and only twel of these are republicans. it could go either way, as i understand it. i talked to peter hart just as you did. peter hart said, the question, pat, are republicans getting too over confident? he said, pat, this is a hurricane and the only question is, is it category 3 or category 5? and like earl, this one's not going to miss the coast. >> you know, here's the thing though. there are a number of things that polls actually can't measure. we know some of that is mobilization. we don't know in terms of the