we did in the run up to it. you think the whole thing is bad? specific pieces are bad? >> the whole bill is awful. there are parts of it, as in any bill, that's really with the amendment over 3,000 pages long. there are parts that are good and that should be part of a new law. >> let me ask you about the specifics. it sounds good to extend coverage to 32 million people. >> it depends on how you do it. almost every one of those will be in medicaid, which is a bad program. the states have to pay a huge part of the cost. >> it's good. but you have to pay for it. >> insurers barred from denying coverage. >> i'm all for it. i'm all for it. some of the provisions are good. they should be part of a new law. when you look at the law, piece after piece, it's one of the reasons we're not creating jobs. it's going to increase health care costs.