program occurring just before dawn at 5:30 eastern time at kennedy space center. jay barber is live with me now at kennedy space center in florida. jay, when is the next time we're going to see a rocket that can leave here and come back with the stamp of nasa on it? >> well, we'll see rockets with nasa on it but the next time we'll see astronauts going to space is no earlier than 2014. the company space-x out in california is trying to get nasa's permission to deliver cargo to the international space station this year. if they can do that they can launch astronauts to the space station in 2014. that's three years from now. also -- they're closing in on us, chuck. we have some funny noises. >> they're really going to shut this down quick!