need them? >> the surge that really worked, that will work in afghanistan will be a surge of afghan troops, and that's not me speaking, that's captain, marine captain down in heldman province who says the achilles heel is the shortage of afghan troops. general conway says if he could change one thing in southern afghanistan it would be to have more afghan troops. as far as the iraqi surge is concerned, it took place after the strategy was changed to try it successfully to get 100,000 iraqi who is were attacking us to switch sides. that was called the iraqi surge, sons of iraq, and we need to do the same thing in afghanistan. it takes a plan, we don't have a plan yet to get those lower level, those lower local taliban fighters, not who are on a payroll, but they are being