[ applause ] we should not be punishing patriotic americans who stepped forward to serve this country. we should be celebrating their willingness to show such courage and self-nessness on behalf of their fellow citizens, especially when we are fighting two wars. >> when he says we are moving ahead on don't ask, don't tell, what does that mean to you here, charles? >> contessa, the president of the united states just said to the largest gathering of the umbrella organization of the hrc that he is working to defeat and to date down don't ask, don't tell. at the same time, president obama has instructed his justice department to fight our lawsuit to keep -- for the obama administration supporting, keeping don't ask, don't tell in place. what way is it? he says one thing but rahm emanuel and the white house are digging their heels in, slowing down any progress on passage of our legislation. he says one thing, he does something completely different. >> know, it's interest because, brad, there seems to be a big