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philanthropists. but where did leonard leo's group get this kind of cash in the first place? >> from a different conservative billionaire. leonard leo's group got a 1. 6 billion -- with the -- billion dollar donation if years ago from a single conservative billionaire. and what did leo's group spend last year's $183 million on? we have no idea. the way groups like this work is they pass their money through other funds to obscure where all that money is actually gone, so it's all at one big black hole. but we do have a potential clue about the kind of things money might be going towards. last week, the washington post reported that in 2012, the same guy, leonard leo directed conservative pollster kellyanne conway to bill a nonprofit he advised and to use that money to, quote, give ginni thomas another 25 k. ginni thomas, as in the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. and leonard leo had really specific instructions for that $25,000. quote, the paperwork should have no mention of ginni thomas, of course. now, the nonprofit whose money mr. leo directed towards ginni thomas back in 2012 -- that group is still around. and it is still affiliated with

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