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the j. edgar hoover and fbi clearly has was no longer helping the american people. was there a moment? and it feels like we might be in one of those moments. >> i would say yes and no. yes because obviously, we -- as dan was talking, i thought about the activists and the civil rights activists and the black lives activists and black panthers that have been targets for ions going well before the political climate we sit in and fbi, and law enforcement, people who work for the government, they're in a precarious position because of their belief in the quote, unquote, deep state that i would argue doesn't believe, and you could be persuaded to believe that it does. fbi agent offices have been targeted. their lives have been put in danger. so would a church committee do anything but play right into the hands of those and the far-wing spaces and places of america? >> i hear you, but it seems like we have to do something to restore trust. we have to -- and it has to be