> at 4:00 in the morning, you don't see anything. it's dark. and i don't think size, weight, or complexion matters at 4:00 in the morning, when you're awakened by a noise, and your dog's growling. >> reporter: ken wanted us to experience it with the lights off. >> let's do it. >> so let's shut the light off. okay. >> reporter: at first it was pitch black, but as my eyes adjusted, i could make out something. >> i can see a little bit of a silhouette but i cannot see your face. you wanna turn the light back on? >> i believe i was standing about where lars was standing. you were standing about where Get Live News Updates Every Minute from vimarsana.com Curated from 23000 News Agencies.">
> at 4:00 in the morning, you don't see anything. it's dark. and i don't think size, weight, or complexion matters at 4:00 in the morning, when you're awakened by a noise, and your dog's growling. >> reporter: ken wanted us to experience it with the lights off. >> let's do it. >> so let's shut the light off. okay. >> reporter: at first it was pitch black, but as my eyes adjusted, i could make out something. >> i can see a little bit of a silhouette but i cannot see your face. you wanna turn the light back on? >> i believe i was standing about where lars was standing. you were standing about where Get Live News Updates Every Minute from vimarsana.com Curated from 23000 News Agencies." property="og:description">
> at 4:00 in the morning, you don't see anything. it's dark. and i don't think size, weight, or complexion matters at 4:00 in the morning, when you're awakened by a noise, and your dog's growling. >> reporter: ken wanted us to experience it with the lights off. >> let's do it. >> so let's shut the light off. okay. >> reporter: at first it was pitch black, but as my eyes adjusted, i could make out something. >> i can see a little bit of a silhouette but i cannot see your face. you wanna turn the light back on? >> i believe i was standing about where lars was standing. you were standing about where Get Live News Updates Every Minute from vimarsana.com Curated from 23000 News Agencies.">
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>> reporter: ken itzo walked us through the story lars told him countless times -- >> he wasn't sure what he was seeing. he just thought it was an intruder, maybe two. >> there's the thought of, well, debbie's only 5'3", she's blonde. she was wearing a light t-shirt. how could he not see his own wife? >> at 4:00 in the morning, you don't see anything. it's dark. and i don't think size, weight, or complexion matters at 4:00 in the morning, when you're awakened by a noise, and your dog's growling. >> reporter: ken wanted us to experience it with the lights off. >> let's do it. >> so let's shut the light off. okay. >> reporter: at first it was pitch black, but as my eyes adjusted, i could make out something. >> i can see a little bit of a silhouette but i cannot see your face. you wanna turn the light back on? >> i believe i was standing about where lars was standing. you were standing about where