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they talked, sometimes that would be a dinner, he puts them on speakerphone. and he says it was about geography, weather, wherever the vice president happened to be at that moment. traveling anyway. and says explicitly it was never about business. so was there anything, just to be fair here, was there anything as you read through the transcript that looked like it did in fact connect joe biden to hunter biden and his business dealings? >> now, larger was pressed several times by both republicans and democrats about those roughly 20 instances over the course of the tenure relationship between arthur and hunter biden. where hunter biden would be hanging out at dinner's, or, hotel rooms with business associates around the globe. and, because he spoke to his father on a daily basis. what oftentimes put his father on speakerphone. he was asked specifically was