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>> of course. joe biden is the president. >> joining our conversation is tim miller, the writer at large for the bulwark and an msnbc political analyst. tim, it's great to see you again. it's official, 1,07 days after the 2020 election, ron desantis has bravely declared donald trump lost the election. it's kind of sad, but in reality he's tried to play it both ways for the past 1,007 days. who does that say more about? ron desantis or the republican party? >> i think it says a lot about both of them. you can go back older than that. during the stop the steal between 2020 and the inauguration, ron desantis was out there floating the possibility that maybe state legislatures could overturn the election. he wasn't as vociferous as trump was or some of the leading