Ill break down the legal developments with former fbi senior official Chuck Rosenberg and talk to one of the republicans challenging trump for the nomination, former texas congressman will hurd. Donald trump is running to stay out of prison. Plus, impeachment trial balloon. As Hunter BidensPlea Deal Unravels in court, House Republicans threaten to impeach President Biden. If they do not provide the information we need, then we would go to an Impeachment Inquiry. This is impeachment theater. Setting up a potential impeachment investigation, coinciding with the threat of a Government Shutdown all in the fall. Ill talk to Biden Campaign national cochair senator chris coons of delaware. And is age just a number . Senator Mitch Mcconnell freezes midsentence in a news conference, putting a spotlight once again on the advancing age of many of our nations leaders. The president calling to check on me . How old is too old to serve . Joining me for insight and analysis are Leigh Ann Caldwell of the Washington Post upon amy walter of the cook political report. Fais shakir, political adviser to Bernie Sanders and stephen hayes, editor of the dispatch. Welcome to sunday. Its Meet The Press. From nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is Meet The Press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning. Our democracy faces yet another stress test, one arguably it hasnt faced since reconstruction. An authoritarian minded, allowing for a peaceful transfer of power. The answer on that test was we barely passed it. Donald trump put the nation again on a Collision Course between partisan politics and a rule of law. In a superseding case, special counsel jack smith accused the former president of a coverup after the former president tried to get his staff to delete maralago Security Footage which was subpoenaed by the fbi. It charged trump with classified documents, specifically, a battle plan related to attacking iran which donald trump showed the two people helping mark meadows write a book. That took place at a meeting had the his bedminster golf club. In total trump now faces 70 Felony Counts between indictments so far, and another is coming from the special counsel investigation into hit efforts to stay in power after the 2020 election, and an additional indictment out of the State Of Georgia is expected later in august related to tampering with those Election Results. So over the next year, we will see the legal calendar for mr. Trump collide with the political calendar for america. In october is when it begins. Trump faces a New York State Trial On Civil Fraud charges. Trump personally is want required to appear for civil trials in this case. On january 15th its another civil trial that just happens to coincide with the day of the iowa caucuses. That civil trial is involving writer e. Jean carroll. Its an additional Defamation Case against him. On january 29th, a week before the contest in nevada, Yet Another Civil Trial begins. This one is a federal Class Action Suit that accuses trump and the Trump Organization of duping vulnerable investors into buying into a pyramid scheme. Three weeks after super tuesday when a dozen states vote, on march 25th, the criminal case is supposed to kick off in new york where trump is charged with falsifying Business Records to cover up an affair shortly before the 2016 election. And then two months before the Republican Convention begins, on may 20th, the special counsels criminal trial into trumps handling of classified documents is scheduled to begin. Now i say scheduled because the additional charges announced this week is likely to delay the start of that. So the potential trials into election interference, federally and in georgia, theyre not even on the books, and heres what we already know so far. Five trials, 74 Felony Counts, and it poses this question. Is the Republican Party going to go through with this and nominate donald trump with all of this going on . Were staring at a republican nominee who is desperate to postpone the trials until after the election because if he wins, they go away, and a democratic nominee over the age of 80, and you have to ask yourself, do we really think the status quo will collide in the spring of 24 . It is pretty clear with voters they dont want this rematch. 70 of voters dont want biden to run again and 60 dont want trump to run again. It is not clear that the General Public fully appreciates that the two parties are going down this route. Last night campaigning in erie, pennsylvania, donald trump escalated things. He threatened republicans who do not pursue investigations, impeachment of President Biden. They sit back and they say, they have other priorities. We have to look at other things. Any republican that doesnt act on democrat fraud should be immediately primaried and get out. Out theyve broken the veil by indicting me with this ridiculous these are ridiculous indictments. All right. We want to unpack the legal situation here, so weve got former fbi senior official, analyst Chuck Rosenberg. Chuck, i appreciate you coming in. So, superseding indictments are not something prosecutors like to have to do because it means they cannot have their full case. The fact that we saw this this week, is this more a reflection that justice is scrambling, or more a reflection that it could be cooperating . It could be that theyre learning new information perhaps from cooperators, other sources, documents, Text Messages and Security Camera footage. I think youre right. Ideally prosecutors like to bring one set of charges against one set of defendants at one time, but sometimes you learn Additional Information or something becomes more clear that had been opaque previously, and so superseding indictments while not preferred are not all that unusual. And, by the way, theyre perfectly permissible. How serious are these additional counts . There are two more counts. The Security Footage specifically, theres some evidence in the superseding indictments that they have. Do we assume theres more. First, Circumstantial Evidence is every bit as weighty and circumstantial, and the new counts are compelling in and of themselves. Obstruction in a case like this helps to prove intent. Intent is something that the government has to prove in these sorts of cases and could be hard to do because you have to get into the mind of some other person, but when that other person tries to impede the investigation, obstruct the investigation, thwart investigators by Counseling Attorneys to lie, by trying to destroy Security Camera footage. Right. That help illuminate that persons intent and i think those are strong counts. Basically at this point he would have to turn against his employees and hang his employees out to try if he wanted to get out of this, right sfl . Possibly, but i dont think hes going to get out of it even if he does that and more likely, those employees, lower level defendants, lower level in the organization, if passed his prolog would turn against him. Lets move to the january 6th investigation. Obviously, there are all these tea leaves that something is imminent, perhaps its this coming week. We assume the grand jury is going to meet again. Theyve actually outlined what their we know what hes been targeted to do. Its interesting that theyre not hitting him for the insurrection itself. Explain that. Right. So first, we do think Something Else is coming and with good reason. Mr. Trump received a Target Letter when i was a federal prosecutor, chuck. I would occasionally send out Target Letters to, well other targets. Its not a bluff. Its not a faint its not a game. When a prosecutor sends a Target Letter that means he or she is seeking youre seeking an indictment. Youre going to seek it. By the way, when we seek it we tend to get it. Why is insurrection off the table . We dont know conclusively that it is. Theres no requirement that you list all of the statutes that you intend to charge in a Target Letter, but lets assume its off the table. Its probably with good reason because theres no need for the government to try to prove that mr. Donald trump desired violence, although, that certainly happened. The other statutes mentioned in the Target Letter are all compelling cases. In other words, that he tried to thwart the peaceful transition of president ial power. That in and of itself is as compelling a criminal case as i can imagine. Without getting into the state courts because i know thats a separate situation, but in these federal charges, in your experience, the likelihood is these get charged. Right. I come from the Eastern District of virginia, the rocket docket. Ten month away, may of 2024 when this maralago case is scheduled to go on trial. It seems like an eternity to me. Right. Whether or not that trial has to slide, we shall see, but i dont think it has to. However, if more charges, new charges, additional charges are brought in the District Of Columbia related to the events of january 6th, i think its going to be hard to squeeze that in between a may federal trial in florida and the november election. I want to get your understanding of what happened in that delaware courtroom with the hunter biden plea agreement. It fell apart under some basic questioning. Should should does that mean this is a pretty weak agreement . No. It doesnt mean that. It does mean that attorneys on both sides perhaps didnt do a good enough job of being very clear with each other and with the judge about what that plea agreement, that contract was drawn up to do. Is that is this just bad execution here . How this feels kind of basic. Its kind of basic, but it happens. Most Plea Agreements go through without a hitch. This one had a hitch. It had a snag. Its remediable. Its relatively easy to fix. If mr. Biden still wanted to plead guilty. And, by the way, chuck, i think its in his best interest to do so. The two sides will hammer this out. Chuck, thank you for providing some clarity. Joining me now is the national cochair of the Biden Campaign. Senator coons, thank you for coming back to Meet The Press. I understand you believe this is all being emphasized due to politics, the republican house. Let me ask you this. Do you think it would behoove the president for him to come out and say i had no Business Dealings with my son . My sons issues are my sons issues. Do you think he has to say that more directly because there are a lot of people who believe Something Else happened . Lets be clear, chuck. There has been five years, and its been five years. This investigation started during the trump investigation and theyve come forward with not one shred of evidence tying President Biden to any of this. I am encouraged that in sharp contrast to President Trump you just detailed his mountain of legal problems where President Trump is fighting and pushing back, obstructing. Hunter biden has come forward and paid his late taxes as you discussed with Chuck Rosenberg, i think it will get ironed out quickly and i dont think he has to say more than he has. There is no evidence. Theyre going to accuse him. Theyre going to accuse him of all sorts of stuff. Whether they have the evidence or not. Right. And they may have an Information Ecosystem that helps amplify it to the point that you dont think he needs hey, despite what you hear, just so you know, i dont do business with my son or my brother. I think hes been perfectly clear and frankly, what makes the American People turn toward President Biden in the Reelection Campaign is he has spent his time focusing on what theyre concerned about and not relitigating the 2020 election, not focused on grievance politics as you showed in erie last night. President biden has delivered on an astonishing array of things that trump promised to do but biden has actually done. Impeachment was on the president s mind while he was talking about the economy. Take a listen to what he had to say. Republicans may have to find Something Else to criticize me for, now that inflation is coming down. Maybe theyll decide to impeach me because its coming down. Do you think politically impeachment would help biden . He seems to think so. I dont know. If you look back at bill clinton and the experience of the impeachment, ultimately it did. I think President Biden has an incredibly strong record to run on and there was great check news last week that reinforced that the ground is shifting in his direction in terms of economic growth, unemployment, threequarters of americans showed in a recent poll they feel better about their economic condition. Consumer confidence is the highest its been in years. So the ground is moving in his direction. But if the republicans want a sharp contrast that joe bidens delivering on infrastructure, on highquality manufacturing,ed on making it stronger on The World Stage, and they want to engage in political theater, an Impeachment Inquiry is the best thing they could do to hurt their chances next fall. Whats legal in this town is sometimes very frustrating. Hunter biden, clearly was profiting off his last name. Jared kushner, member of the trump family profiting off of their access of sometimes there is a code conduct for Supreme Court justices and throw in president ial Family Members. Sons and daughters of sitting president s, should they have their own Code Of Conduct . Should congress try to address this . Its an interesting question that i havent engaged in before. We have been engaging to try to get the Supreme Court to adopt a Code Of Ethics as you reference. They are the only member of the entire federal judiciary not covered by a Code Of Ethics. Members of congress have to fully disclose their asset, their stock holdings, their dealings, and should president ial Family Members perhaps come under additional scrutiny. That may be worth looking at because, frankly, as you referenced, Jared Kushner wasnt just a private citizen. He worked in the white house. If you are outraged by hunter biden, you should be outraged by Jared Kushner. You cant pick and choose. Congressman dean phillips from minnesota is openly out there saying he thinks there should be a contest. He thinks the president is too old to be running and this needs to be an active debate inside the democratic party. What say you . Just look at the endorsements President Biden is getting. Earlier in the cycle, more broadly than ever before. Well, look. Weve had contested primaries with sitting president s. Youve never seen a sitting president have as weak a field of potential opponents and marianne williamson, robert f. Kennedy, and the endorsements from the Building Trades and climate activists and reproductive activists as broadly as ive ever seen in my life is endorsing President Biden because of what hes gotten done. Rfk jr. Is kind of a clown show. A lot of people sort of see that. I dont think its a real threat, but dean philips is a pretty serious member of congress, maybe unknown, hes sitting on the ballot in New Hampshire. It doesnt have you nervous . It doesnt have me nervous, frankly. President biden has the strongest record of legislative accomplishment since lbj, and youre beginning to see the impact. 13 million companies, 800,000 good manufacturing jobs, 35,000 infrastructure out there in the country. Dean phillips cant ite anything like that. President biden has made it stronger on The World Stage and it showed his agility and his capabilities and the strength with which hes he