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Weve reached the end of another week of high profile and historic legal troubles for former president , donald trump. He now faces 91 charges across four indictments. The latest in georgia, where he has yet to turn himself in. Law enforcement there is planning for trump to surrender no earlier than thursday of next week. Thats according to three sources familiar with the plan, they stress, nothings official just yet. Trump and the 18 codefendants in fani williss case have exactly one week to voluntary surrender in Fulton County. Earlier today, Georgia Republican governor, brian kemp, spoke a lot about what he thought the georgia case might go to trial. In my opinion, this trial, despite what theyre thinking for anybody else, it is not going to happen before the election. That comment poses trumps team is trying to push back the federal election in two nearly three years from. Now today, we also learned that Kenneth Chesebro, the trump ally who allegedly thought up the Fake Electors scheme is with codefendants in georgia appears to have been on the Capitol Grounds on january 6th. Thats according to publicly available video, and his former mentor. He previously invoked the fifth when asked by the january Six Committee where he was during the first week of january 2021. Theres no indication that he went into the capital building, or was in any way violent. Those lawyers declined to comment. Speaking of january 6th, federal prosecutors are speaking attentions of 33 years in federal prison for the former proud boys his actions surrounding the insurrection of the capital. I mean, while it has been a busy day for the current President Joe Biden, he will come to leaders from japan and south korea to a summit at camp david, and announce agreements aimed at bringing the countries closer together. Theres not much of anything i agree on with my predecessor, on Foreign Policy. His America First policy, walking away from the rest of the world breaks us weaker and not stronger. America is strong with our allies and our alliances. With, that lets bring in our lead off panel, jonathan allen, Senior National politics reporter for nbc, amna nawaz, ill anchor on Cbs News Hour and and former federal prosecutor, renato mariotto, whos also a Legal Affairs columnist for politico magazine. Renato, we expect trump to turn himself into Georgia Authorities sometime late next week. What is that going to look like . Then what happens after that . Well, its going to look a little different than it has in some of these other cases. The feds made some concessions, there wasnt a mugshot, for example. There wasnt a lot of the usual booking questions that you might expect. I think the reason given was that they knew who he was. Hes easily recognizable. None of those corners are going to be done in Fulton County. Its going to be circus. I think trump is going to revel in that circus. The challenge for him is that with all of the destructions hes trying to pull, at the end of the day, the this atlanta case, this Fulton County case, its ultimately going to be impacting the other cases he has. The January 6th Case that jack smith has ultimately is a lot of overlap with this atlanta case. What i actually expect that ultimately hes going to find that a lot of the witnesses that testified are not going to be as enthusiastic about testifying. I think hes got a more difficult road ahead than him and his team let me ask you about that, renata, that Governor Kemp thinks this is going to be protected for into the future . I dont disagree with him in the sense that fani willis threw the book at donald trump. 19 defendants. Every count imaginable. Rico has been charged. Thats a very complex sprawling case. Jack smith had a totally different approach. Fani willis is using a sledgehammer. Jack smith used a scalpel. One defendant. Very narrowly drawn charges. Carved around some of the complications you might have with the First Amendment on it incitement, things like that. Didnt even include mark meadows in that indictment. Not only could he have charged him, you wont find him referenced. I think he wants to use him as a witness. He is trying to get that to trial quickly. So, very different approaches. Unfortunately for trump, he has to face both of them at the same time. Thats the challenge for him and his team, to try to fight the war. John, the other piece of big trump news today, Kenneth Chesebro appears to have been outside the Capitol On January 6th has also been indicted. But we need to know about him and the role he played . Absolutely alicia, the important thing about chesebro has not only been indicted in georgia, but believed to be one of the unindicted coconspirators in the jacks midJanuary 6th Case. The reason hes so important in these trials is he was the guy who came up with the Fake Electors scheme, according to the January 6th Committee. They had said that he basically gave stepbystep instructions to the Fake Electors on how to do their job. The New York Times unearthed the memo in which he had originally suggested this idea to put together Fake Electors. Even though he said it was likely unconstitutional, he believed it could create the kinds of delays and chaos that might help overturn some of the results. Renato, the fact that he pled the fifth when he was talking to the January 6th Committee about where he was in january of 2021, and the fact that now you have this video, i imagine investigators will be interested that chesebro appears to have been outside the Capitol On January 6th. One of the questions it raises for investigators . Well, look, it was just mentioned a moment ago, he was the architect of the scheme. A memo that was recently unearthed in which he basically told the trump team, i am not recommending this strategy. But here is a strategy you could employ. By the way, you know your lawyer is recommending something thats very questionable when hes not even willing to tell you that he recommends, or he would suggest or advise that you undertake what he has said in court, right . Here, the fact that hes there in the capital suggests his allegiance to this plan. Hes endorsing the plan, which by the way, you mentioned mr. A moment ago, a plan termed very violent. A plan that involved not only people being hurt, but some people dying, and actually plans for violence that day. I have to think that his legal team has to be very concerned. Thats why i said that interplay, i dont think hes going to be a witness in that jack smith case for donald trump. For anyone who has lost count, this is trumps forced indictment. What has the reaction for leaders in both parties . Alicia, i do think its worth repeating the numbers you said at the top of the segment. 91 charges for indictments. I think we cannot say enough just how remarkable this moment is. Because there is a little bit of a tendency to become the new indictment, new charges, we know the political arguments that come out of this. Particularly on the republican side. This is really extraordinary. I do encourage folks to go out and read the full details, in particular, of the georgia indictment. Its a real portrait of an extraordinary concerted intentional effort to illegally overturn the results of a democratic election. But to your question, the political conversation has largely been the same. Weve seen the Biden Administration remain at an arms length, plus some, away from any of this. They knew dont answer any questions related to anything having to do with the Department Of Justice or the special counsels investigations. They want those to be seen, and continue to be seen as completely independent of any political motivations or this administration. On the republican side, weve also seen a pretty consistent response. While there have been a few outliers, particularly among the other republican president ial candidates, chris christie, most notably, a south hutchinson, to a bit, will hurd also to some extent. Largely, their response has been to echo the response of mr. Trump. Which is to say all of these investigations are politically motivated. They are unjustified, this is the weaponization of government against the president ial nominee. I think we will continue to see that, just because they are not willing to speak up against mr. Trump. To hammer him that hard, you said. Also, lets remind those, this helps mr. Trump. Weve only seen in his laid among his president ial rivals hello with each indictment and overtime as each month has gone by. The fact that they would extend over several more months into another year or two, it works to his political benefit if history is a guide. John, thats certainly what weve been hearing from trump world. I know youve been reporting on that. I also want to ask you about trump, today continuing his baseless offense of on truth social calling the indictments bogus, calling President Biden crooked. He also calls all the civil criminal cases saying, quote, Election Interference which is rich. Is anyone in his circle telling him to tone it down . I dont think it really matters whether they tell him to tone it down. In fact, my experience with the people closest to him is that they tend to not do that, because they know it may tell him to tone it down, hes going to do the exact opposite. Right now, hes in a political fight that is going in his favor. If anybody other than donald trump, if youre anybody who wasnt under four indictments, you would look at his lead in the polls right now and say that not only was he a prohibitive favorite, its a wonder why anyones competing. The answers to why people are competing is that they think its possible he will fall under his own weight. I dont see trump peeling back. I do think that there is some level of his lawyers being able to encourage him to not make his case worse. We did see him call off a monday press conference, and they plan to go through some of what he says is the last evidence of fraud, of course there is no evidence thats come forward yet. He was going to do a press on, that we saw President Biden at camp david today announcing these agreements between the United States, japan, south korea. What else can you tell us about that . What is the white house looking to accomplish . One of the things to point out about this really historic meeting, which is the first time these three leaders have met independently of any larger International Gathering where theyve met on the sidelines. Is it took place at camp david. Which is an absolutely storied location. Were talking about the likes of winston churchill, who have been hosted there. This was intended to send a very clear message about a very Strong Partnership that the u. S. Wants. The priority that this holds on the administrations agenda for action. That is a message really intended for china. And also to some degree to north korea. Both south korea and japan are obviously within the danger zone, geographically, when it comes to north koreas rocket capabilities. But they are also very concerned, and if pushed back against chinas growing geographic influence in the region. So mr. Biden hailed this what he calls a new era of partnership, and a more formalized Alliance Working together not just on economic issues, but also on issues of national security. Economically, that means theyre going to share more economic data. Theyre going to serve as each others Early Warning systems when it comes to supply chain disruptions, and the like. They will better coordinate on long term plans for military exercises, and this is really President Biden squarely in his legal house. Right on the Foreign Policy front at a time of international crisis. Everyone has hailed his efforts to rally. All the nato allies in response to russias active aggression and active war in ukraine. The pivot to asia, thats definitely u. S. Administrations have tried to make hasnt really happened yet. Its a bit of a Foreign Policy goal. This is the Biden Administrations push to try to make that happen. That brings us back also to his original gambit for running for president , challenges abroad, challenges at home. A candidate who is able to take over on day one. John allen, amna nawaz, renato mariotto, thank you so much for getting us started. Coming up, it looks like donald trump has decided not to shop at the first republican debate. We are going to discuss what that means for the front runner, and the rest of the 2024 field with carlos curbelo, and Victoria Defrancesco. Later, President Biden heads to maui on monday. Where over 100 people have died from devastating wildfires. We are going to talk to the red cross about what they have seen on the ground, and what people need most. The 11th hour, just getting underway on friday night. Wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. Its to die for. And its all right here. Streaming was never this easy, you know. This is the way. You really went all out didnt you . Um, its called commitment. Could you turn down the volume . Here, you can try. Get way more into what your into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. After weeks of anticipation, donald trump has decided not to attend the first republican primary debate next week. Instead, two sources familiar with the situation tell nbc news that trump is aiming for an interview with none other than tucker carlson. As a way of counter programming the fox news debate. As of now, nothing is formally set. Back with us tonight, Victoria Defrancesco, the dean of the school of Public Service at the university of arkansas. And former florida republican, congressman carlos curbelo. Victoria, for weeks now, weve been asking, will he, wont he. I havent had a Single Person who said yes hes going to show up at this debate. Ivan had a Single Person who said yes it i think its a good idea for him to show up at this debate. But now that were in the moment, where we know definitively he is not showing up, not only is he not going to show up, but hes going to counter program, what does that tell you about where this republican field finds itself . It finds itself with donald trump in the limelight, alicia. The fact that he definitively did decide not to go to the first debate just sets him apart, not just in terms of him being able to control his airtime, but alicia, remember, they are asking the candidates who are going to go on that debate stage to sign a pledge. One of the most important parts of that pledge is that the eventual nominee will have to support of all of the folks on that debate stage. And by default, this person will not run as an independent. Donald trump is now explicitly signaling that hey, if he doesnt like how things go his way in the gop, hes going to carve out his own laid. In addition to again all of the media spotlight. This is just a win, win, win for donald trump. If it does end up being an interview with tucker carlson, and even bigger win for just that conservative base of media. Carlos you know what the Debate Prep Looks like for these things. You know there has been an asterisk on all of these republican candidates bait props. Okay, if on the off chance, 0. 001 chance that donald trump chose on, this is what we do. Otherwise, we go with this plan. Theres still reworking there tactics as we speak. Trying to figure out, yes, he may not be in the room, but he is the biggest presence there. They cannot not talk about him. Alicia, every single candidate among the many issues that people think about and prepare for for debate, immigration, taxes, health care, Foreign Policy, the Biggest Issue for these other republican candidates is donald trump. How to handle questions about donald trump, about Everything Donald Trump has done in recent years about the many charges that donald trump is facing, the four different judicial cases. These candidates are taking donald trump 101, 201, 301, for a one, 501. Because the answers to those questions could determine whether or not they can stay in the race. Whether or not donald trump would consider one of them to be his running mate. Donald trump wont be there, but in this republican primary, hes going to be the most important topic, and the dominant topic of the night. Victoria, to be even more specific, you have a memo on the debate. Allies of ron desantis laying out a strategy for the Florida Governor to defend donald trump from chris christie. Here is what christie said about that earlier today. This campaign of his has gone from up here to down here. Because people are reallybennine hell he stands for. If what he stands for is defending donald trump, then just drop out of the race and endorsed him. Look, the only way to beat someone is to beat them. If he thinks hes going to get on the stage and defend donald trump on wednesday night, then he should do donald trump a favor, and do a party favor. Come to tallahassee, endorsed donald trump, get the hell out of the race. This is why Chris Christies in the. Race he wants to prosecute the case against donald trump. He also wants to call out the other republicans who are not doing the same. I think we all understand politically what it is desantis is trying to do. Hes trying to stay in the trump lane, so that should Trumps Campaign for any reason fall apart, then he is ready to collect all of those trump fans, bring in perhaps some other voters, and speed ahead. That is predicated though, that he, on trump falling apart. Otherwise, ron desantis doesnt have a lead. Alicia, i would also argue that even if trump were to implode, both would go to desantis. What weve seen over the last couple of weeks, especially in the time that the candidates have been spending in iowa, the key is not connecting. In the meantime, all of the other candidates are standing to slowly but surely make votes. Ron desantis is falling flat. Hes trying to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to be trump, but at the same time, he wants to differentiate himself with trump. You know what, voters are smart. They, regardless of whether you like trump or not, they know who the original is. Why are you going to buy a copy, if you can get the original . They are just really isnt any magic to ron desantis and that base that he thinks he has a shot. With i think that is part of what works Rhetorically About What Christie is doing their. Hes saying, who are you . What do you stand for . If you use the lack of desantiss willingness to attack trump as a proxy for a bigger question about values, and about integrity, then it becomes more damning than is simply saying this guy does is defend donald trump. Alicia, one of the reasons why donald trump has been so successful inside the Republican Party is because republican primary voters believe donald trump is authentic. They believe hes being his full self all the time. He probably is, to his credit, it doesnt mean its good for the country. But he is being hooey is. Ron desantis is trying to be the guy who wants to defeat donald trump, and the guy who wants to follow donald trump. It is impossible. Following the donald trump playbook worked in 2018 when no one knew him in the state of florida, because he wasnt running against donald trump. Now hes running against donald trump. You cannot defeat someone by following him. The other big problem that desantis has, even if donald trump falls apart, donald trump has two big goals. With this republican primary. Number one is to win. It he wants to be the nominee. Number two is to make sure that donald trump to make sure rhonda sentence is not the nominee. If donald trump does get out of this race for any reason, which i dont anticipate, certainly not anytime soon, he is going to keep that priority of making sure ron desantis doesnt advance. He considers ron desantis to be a traitor. He considers him to be loyal. Desantis has a big problem. He really has to get Out Of The Shadow of donald trump if he wants to have a shot at reviving his campaign. Thus Victoria Defrancesco soto, carlos curbelo, as always, thank you both. Coming up, many people in maui escaped the devastating wildfires with barely the clothes on their back. Well talk to one of the helpers on the ground when the 11th hour continues. Alive President Joe Biden and First Lady Jill Biden will head to maui on monday. The president will get a firsthand look at the devastation left behind by the wildfires that have killed more than 100 people and devastated the community. Over a week after the fires, maui some Urgency Management Chief has resigned. My colleague, Miguel Almaguer is on the ground with the latest. All right, were going to have a follow spot down here. As the Ground Search for the missing approaches its 11th day, and the death toll continues to climb, tonight, mauis top Emergency Management official has resigned. Citing health reasons, herman andaya, has stepped down amid withering criticism he literally failed to sound the alarm. Do you regret not sounding the sirens . I do not. As the nations deadliest fire in more than a century ripped through lahaina, andaya never activated the Emergency Sirens most often used for tsunami warnings. Saying had he done so, he feared the public would have moved towards the fire in the hills. I will tell you that sirens have not been used for brush fires. Maui counties website lists wildfires among the very hazard sirens can be used for. The siren is instant, immediate. Its going off, somethings going on, im alert. Its sort of difficult to believe that you would be compelled to run towards flame. Amid the growing frustration, a new nbc news review of Public Meeting records found andaya repeatedly downplayed the use of sirens, calling them a last resort. If i would have had access to that button, i would have pushed it. Do you think the sirens going off would have saved lives . I do, yeah. Andayas resignation comes as hawaiian electorate faces multiple lawsuits. Alleging the utility is to blame for igniting the fires. The Power Company says it doesnt comment on pending litigation, stressing the causes of the fires have not been determined. It comes as the death toll balloons to well over 100, with more than half the burn zone searched. Im heartbroken. Im heartbroken. Words cannot explain, because i keep hearing of people i know that are still unattended. Is with the red cross and joins us from maui tonight. Evan, what are you hearing from people who live there . We are hearing that they are dealing and living still with the trauma from the other week. That is one of our major points of assistance right now, is helping people, senior citizens, to young children, process the horrific things that they have gone through. Just seeing these images, my heart breaks for these people who even days after are still struggling to find the words to express how they are feeling. We are doing our best with spiritual and mental, emotional care, to help them process this in a healthy way, and help them get back on their feet. Its hard to process what happened, why it happened, whether or not there was something that could be prevented. As you heard in that package there, many people say they still have loved ones that are unaccounted for. In terms of physical goods, what are the biggest needs and demands in maui right now . Right now, one of the biggest things we are expecting from peoples connectivity. Weve talked about this process of trying to connect people back with their family, their friends, their other loved ones. This fire didnt just destroy peoples homes, businesses, community centers, but it has destroyed essential pieces of the infrastructure. So right now, as we are helping people come to our shelters who come and speak, and call our hotline trying to connect with friends, family, loved ones. Were helping with that connection process. But as you can see, the destruction is pretty massive. Trying to reach people, some of whom might even still be in these areas, its hard to get that connectivity through. Evan, its my understanding that one of the main things the red cross is working on is getting people from shelters to hotel rooms. Why is that so important in this moment . While this is a process that we have worked with with the governors office, county officials, local municipal leaders. As well as the residents who have been staying and spending the night in our emergency shelters. They want a more comfortable place to start their recovery process. We can certainly understand that the shelters with so many people isnt for everybody. These hotels, motels, that people will be moving into are a temporary solution to this problem. We look forward to having the conversation with them once they are in a more comfortable place for them. We can continue the conversation about what next steps in healing looks. Like a long road to recovery. Evan peterson, thank you so much for your time. 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A Fulton County grand jury returned a indictment, charging 19 individuals with violations of georgia law, arising from a criminal conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 president ial election in this state. Its a witch hunt, a continuation of a witch hunt. I have four them, if you look, this is not even possible, four, over the next couple of months, its a disgraceful thing. Republicans cant let them get away with it. Our week began with another historical moment, former President Trump indicted for the fourth time over attempts to interfere with the 2020 election in georgia. Back with us tonight, historian jon meacham, who occasionally advises President Biden. He was the author of and there was light, Abraham Lincoln out now. Good to see, you have a significant was this for our nation . Unprecedented, which is not a word that people like me use very much. The notion that the president of the United States would be charged criminally in a state for what is functionally a coup detat is a remarkable moment in the life of the republic. And the question Going Forward for us is are we able to prove that we are a country that is governed by laws and not bipartisan feeling . That in large measure is on trial here. Susan glasser pointed out that after a slow start, the american Justice System seems determined to throw the book at the former president. How big of a moment is this specifically for our Justice System, and how big of a test is this . To me, The Big Question is are we up to the task of democracy . Thomas paine were even before the Revolutionary War was well underway that in america, the law is king. We dont have kings, we have the law. As the drama unfolded, the constitution, the amendment at the constitution, an entire ethos in which we understood that not a single one of us was more important than the law itself. As it says in the bible, too much is given, much is expected. To the president at the United States, so much power is given, and its expected that they will ultimately follow the law. Even Richard Nixon towards the end of 1974, he broke the law but ultimately had a sense of shame and sense that he had to protect the ultimate constitutional system. Former President Trump, there is no evidence whatever that he is at risk of sharing that view. So the fundamental question we have here, and susans piece got to it, is the Justice System itself Strong Enough to adjudicate, to put these things to rights . That is going to require people putting partisan feelings aside in favor of the law. And that is, as they say, a very big ask. That is clearly what President Trump is attempting to create. Republicans cant stand for this. Outside the most narrow kind of understanding of what american citizenship is, which is a narrow grasp that is seizing power and holding it, which is not what america is supposed to be about. America is not supposed to be that the rule of the strong always wins. The question is, can those who would follow donald trump to the edge of the cliff and a heck of a lot of folks who would fall off the cliff, are they willing to put an allegiance to the constitution ahead of their allegiance to him or a partisan victory . That is a big question. Perhaps, to answer what is in some ways a rhetorical question, you have trump as the gop front runner. Hes facing 91 criminal counts and the four indictments, and the reaction from some Republican Voters is a shrug. The reaction from most Republican Leaders is a shrug. What does that tell you about that sense of shame not just on the part of donald trump, but the idea that the shame would need to be shared, the idea that responsibility would need to be shared. Its a particularly gloomy moment. The way the constitution is set up, we need two Functioning Parties that are basically loyal to the constitution. We need two parties that will follow the rules that are commonly agreed upon, and we need two parties that see that politics can not always be a battle to the death. It has to be a mediation of conflicting interests to arrive to particular solutions to particular problems for a given period of time. That is what politics is. What has replaced that on the republican side at the moment is the sense that every political dispute is in fact armageddon. It is good versus evil, us versus them, light versus dark. Richard hostetter wrote to important essays, in the columbia historian, one called the pseudoconservative and one called the paranoid style of american politics. His insight in the cold war years was that there was a right Wing Movement that saw that we were always a turning point, always forever about to win everything or lose everything. That is an inherent sense of drama that invests everything with great energy, invest money, gets ratings, clearly working in the polls for the former president , but that is not what politics is. Politics properly understood is the way we conduct our public life, and the way that we have chosen to conduct our public life in the United States is according to the rule of law. And right now, a significant chunk of a once noble party, the party of eisenhower, reagan and george h. W. Bush, a party that did in fact put country above themselves. They are not doing that right now. You talk to republicans, i talked to republicans, they will say the quiet part in private, that we want to move on from trump, but you cant just say it. This requires action. It requires a willingness to say, my team is wrong, and until we get it right, i will vote for the other guy. Because lets be clear, as Abraham Lincoln said, human beings, he said men, men act on incentive. The only incentive, the only way to do this, and you mentioned President Biden, hes my friend, i helped him when i can the only way to do this is to continue to have republicans lose at the polls, and i am not a democrat. I am not a republican. I have voted for people in both parties, but the only solution that i can come up with, and i am open to others is the only way to fix the Republican Party is to have it continue to lose, and that is really, really hard. But i genuinely believe that it will be the ballot that convinces republicans in the end that they have to do something about this flight from reason, and this flight towards a one man, our man or the highway ethos. I appreciate that you reworked lincoln to be more gender inclusive. I have about 30 seconds left to ask you about what we watched at camp david today, inherently what it means for south korea, japan and the United States . This idea of putting America First behind us. Well, President Biden has argued for a kind of economic nationalism, a buy american who wants to rebuild the middle class here, a remarkably ambitious agenda that has not been discussed much but fascinating. Hes been doing Foreign Policy a long, long time. Chairman of the Senate Foreign relations committee, he understands a Fundamental Tenet of diplomacy, which is that the best way to have a friends to be one. And the best way for the United States to lead is to be a staple for us to live up to our word, and for us to be as consistent and accurate as possible. Foreign affairs is a little like the markets in that uncertainty and instability are a maze of good order and prosperity. Jon meacham, i wish we were not living through so much history, but if i had to do it, i am glad to have you parse it all out. Thank you for your time. Coming up, its a first for Southern California, a Tropical Storm watch, if it dumped years of rain we are Tracking Hurricane Hillary when the 11th hour continues. Ah, these bills are crazy. She has no idea shes sitting on a goldmine. Well she doesnt know that if she owns a Life Insurance policy of 100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. Even a term policy. Even a term policy . Even a term policy find out if youre sitting on a goldmine. Call Coventry Direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect. Com. The last thing before we go david im david goldberg, a bilingual Elementary School teacher and president of the california teachers association. As we start a new school year, theres something new happening in californias public schools. Jessie theyre called Community Schools. David where parents and families, students and educators are Making Decisions as one. Damien its a real sense of community. Leslie we saw doubledigit gains in math, in english, and reading scores. David its an innovation thats transforming our public schools. Narrator californias Community Schools reimagining public education. Tonight. Hurricane hilary, they say it never rains in sunny Southern California. Well, the region is under its first ever Tropical Storm watch. Theres a category four hurricane makes its way north. The storm is expected to bring significant impacts to the southwest this weekend and into early next week. Hilton has more on storm preparations. Meteorologist bill clarence has a closer look at hillarys path. Its a onceinalifetime event that were going to be experiencing. Hurricane hilary is currently a category four storm, with winds of 130 Miles Per Hour, though its expected to significantly weaken, officials warned there could be extensive rainfall, flash flooding, and mudslides. Fema has Preposition Personnel and supplies in the region and are ready to respond as needed. A true Tropical Storm watch has been issued for Southern California for the first time. We havent seen hurricanes out here, and ive been calling my friends in florida to try to get in some advice on how to handle. It california has not the best track record with driving in the rain. Some areas like death valley and palm springs could see 2 to 3 years worth of rain in 2 to 3 days. How different will the impacts of this fee on the west coast be as compared to what we see happen in the east coast and southeast . In Southern California, we have a very dry, desertlike surfaces that dont absorb that water. So, as soon as that rain starts hitting, were gonna start seeing flooding. Its been 84 years since a Tropical Storm hit here. A region accustomed to fires and earthquakes, now bracing for a different kind of natural disaster. We have the tropical moisture from a major hurricane heading into 10,000 foot peaks in desert areas of the southwest. There is a recipe for disaster, thats why theyre saying this could be catastrophic for some areas. Now, the storm itself is at its peak intensity. Its gonna weaken after this. Its gonna move from what is been really warm water, 90degree water, then heading over water thats going to be 80s and then the 70s. Thats when it gets cool and starts to weaken. Again, sunday evening, the storms could be flying, its gonna be working at 30 Miles Per Hour when it goes to california. It will be in and out in a hurry, but its going to leave its mark especially in the mountains outside of san diego name near palm springs. Stay tuned msnbc this weekend for the latest on this historic storm. And on that note, i wish you a good night, im Lucy Mendez Stepping In For you can catch my show American Voices Saturday Sunday at six pm on msnbc. From all of our colleagues across the networks at msnbc news, thanks for staying up late, ill see you this weekend. Its like a sadness. You cant sleep. It just kind of consumes you. And even when you can move on, you just never forget. Someone who has really left such an impact on your life. She was a really good man mom. She was good to her kids. She was just 20 steps from her front door, she never made it. We cant explain what happened in those 20 steps. It just didnt make sense to me. A working mom, murdered. Its hard to imagine that anybody would be capable of Something Like that. Police started with the men in her life. 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