Election, including fake electors and donald trump is named as unindicted Co Conspirator. Then. All day long. We sitting tight in new york, the high court awaits. You have to leave immunity for the president. The president of the United States has to have immunity. Will donald trump face trial for his attempted coup . And what is at stake for the Supreme Court . Hopefully the republican justices that we have, and judges that we have will make correct decisions. Plus, todays Supreme Court hearing on Abortion Rights in postroe america. I brought up the conversation of what are my options . And they said well, because we are in idaho, there really arent any for you. And as the Campus Protest over israel and gaza grow, the president signs for assistance into law. History will remember this moment. All in start right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. We got some Breaking News tonight out of the state of arizona. Where Attorney General chris base Just Announced a grand jury in arizona has returned indictments in the investigation into the fake electors scheme in that state to steal the 2020 election. Remember, that was the plot devised by allies of donald trump to set false certificates of the National Archives, claiming that donald trump won the states Electoral Vote rather than joe biden this played out in seven Battleground States with the intent to sow chaos and confusion at the certification of the Electoral Votes which was to take place on january 6th. Arizona Attorney General mays has been investigating the scheme since shortly after she took office last year. Clear we are here because justice demands and answer to the efforts of the defendants and other unindicted Co Conspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizonas voters to the 2020 president ial election whatever their reasoning was, the plot to violate the law must be answered for and i was elected to uphold the law of this state. 18 people are listed in the indictment, but only 11 defendants are unredacted does include former Arizona Republican party chair, and Senate Candidate kelly ward as well as her husband, michael ward as well as current republican State Lawmakers jake hoffman and anthony kern. All 11 that are named in the indictment are unredacted, served as those false electors, the people that signed and certified the bogus documents sent to the National Archives. Now, there are several additional defendants who have not yet been served and their names are redacted. The Washington Post reports their former Trump White HouseChief Of Staff mark meadows. Attorneys Rudy Giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman, top Campaign Epstein and former campaign aide, mike roman defendants are charged with the conspiracy fraud and forgery, which are all felonies. Scheming to prevent the lawful transfer of president s to keep unindicted coconspirator won an offense against the will of arizonas voters. Unindicted coconspirator one is, of course, donald trump. Now, all this comes as trump already faces, as you will know, 88 criminal charges across four jurisdictions. He is currently on trial in new york facing 34 charges related to Election Interference and Business Record fraud. Tomorrow morning the Supreme Court will be Hearing Arguments in his Immunity Case were trump claims he cannot be prosecuted by special counsel jack smith in the federal january 6 election case against him joining me now with the latest is nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard. I know you have been reading into this and going through the indictment, so just the first of all, just set up what happened here in terms of the investigation, whose office did the investigation, how long it took and what Attorney General mays announced today. I think it is important for folks that may be saying why did this investigation take so long, why is it the year 2024 for this indictment finally came down . Will folks should also understand that in the state of arizona, it was a republican, Mark Brnovich was his name who was the Attorney General the two years following the 2020 election. Kris mayes didnt come into her position until winning that crucial november election in 2022 point that is what led to this investigation. Over the course of this year, this was a Sprawling Investigation that led to not only the 11 alternate electors, the 11 fake electors being indicted but also the seven under individuals here if we just look at the 11 individuals, i think number one, when youre looking at an arizona perspective, there wasnt much effort to hide what they were doing they literally videoed on the summer 14th, then convened at the gop, arizona gop headquarters in central phoenix, signing this certificate and sending it to congress to hopefully, for them, be counted by mike pence on january 6th. These 11 individuals, with the likes of gop chairwoman, ward, her husband, michael ward and not even try to hide this point literally on december 14, michael ward, also one of the same electors, husband of kelly ward, posted a photo on twitter of his wife taking a phone call and him putting in the caption, quote, another call today from potus cant say exactly what we talked about but he told us to keep the pressure on. This was a very transparent effort that was playing out for the public pick another name is tyler lawyer. He is the Rnc Committeeman from the state of arizona but he is also the Chief Operating Officer of turning point usa, which is a charlie kirk organization. We are also looking at two Arizona State legislators, a former u. S. Senate candidate among those listed 11 but then you got the likes of Rudy Giuliani who is directly signed as convening the group to try to pressure the State Legislator to overturn the Election Results and send that slate of electors to d. C. Of course, also notably you got the likes of Christina Bob and forest epstein. The skills of the heart of the conspiracy that kris mayes, the Attorney General, lays out. We were just showing that video before we should also note as context, were going to dig into these charges here, that the notion that the fake electors scheme itself was a criminal enterprise is reflected, too, in the rico indictment in georgia were fake electors are also part of that criminal indictment and an investigation that has been ongoing in michigan, as well, where some of those fake electors have been charged. Arizona joins a number of states where the fake elector plot with being pulled off and after some investigation, grantors concluded that there was probable cause to indict for a crime with respect to their activities. Absolutely, and at the heart of this indictment is the fact that the john eastman allegedly calls rusty bowers, who is the republican Speaker Of The House and after doug ducey had already certified the results and folks may recall the day that literally doug ducey, the governor of arizona at the time, was planning and Hail To The Chief started playing on his own and we as a present to that ducey had talked about how he had made that the ring tone for donald trump and as he was certifying the Election Results, donald trump was calling him in real time and he put him on mute but after that, we have in this indictment the fact that john eastman replaced a phone call to rusty bowers, the Speaker Of The House, urging him to decertify arizonas Election Results and send the fake slate of electors to washington and then just let the courts handle the rest from there. Rusty bowers, show his picture again, folks may or may not remember provided some of the most compelling testimony in the january 6 committee. He was one of the people who would testify publicly during a hearing very stalwart conservative, lifelong republican, very religious and devout mormon who talked about, the insane pressure that was brought to bear on him to do something that he said was just flatly illegal, which was to basically have the state Legislature Vote to send the trump electors, rather than the biden electors, despite the fact that biden had actually won that state. The charges here, there are four counts here, as i see them. Conspiracy is the first count two, i like this, fraudulent schemes and artifices account is fraudulent schemes and practices in counts four to nine are forgery those last counts having to do, and this is something that we have seen in other places, these individuals, plain as day, attested to something in a document we have access to that they sent to the National Archives that was just simply not true. They said that they were the duly elected electors of the state of arizona, signed their names to it. They signed their names to it in they sent it to congress and the National Archives and if you go into google, anybody at home can go google it in the document, they are online via the federal registry this is a, i think, though, where this comes into play is that the extent to which this even extends risk beyond the explicit acts of november, december, and january of 2020, in 2021. But kelly ward stayed on in her position as the gop chairwoman for years after this tyler boyer, one of these indicted individuals who was one of the fake electors is still, to this day, currently Rnc Committeeman, two of these people are still State Legislators and folks will recall a 2021, the cyber ninjas, and kelly ward was at the forefront of that. I spent days at the fairgrounds where, of course, ballots were being as part of the Forensic Audits they were calling it and kelly ward was there, Anthony Current is one of the State Legislators who was a volunteer for the Forensic Audit and, of course, they dont get into this indictment here but it just speaks to the length of the investigation that the particular crimes here, Christina Bob is another name that i would know here who was just last month brought on in a formal rule for this current election cycle by the rnc Trump Campaign operations to be a part of their Senior Counsel for election integrity. And so the folks that we are seeing the names of in the indictment, which is at the heart of kris mayess statements, last year, that in order to send a clear message about how election should not be tampered with in the past, it is for the purpose of future election for so many of these individuals are still set at the heart, the beating drum of how arizona elections are being run currently. We should know, of course, the arizona election, 24, the mostwatched in the country point carry like, of course, is the republican nominee, or she is running for senate to fill the slot that has been vacated by christiansen, is retiring. She still says election was stolen in 2020. She says her own defeat and 2022 was also stolen. She has been sued for libel by the chair of the Maricopa County board of elections himself who says she is liable, she has basically agreed to not contest that and there is now adjudication of the penalty. This is all within this republican, very fractious Republican Party pick some of those officials are named in this indictment just to get it down just about an hour ago by the Attorney General. Thank you so much. That was great. Thanks, chris. Appreciated. American courts spent 20 years of the u. S. Attorneys office in d. C. , she litigated the case against the wisconsin fake electors. She hosts a ms in bc podcaster was a senior staffer on the jan. 6 a committee and a Principal Crafter of their final report and they both join me now. Mary, i think you guys are having a little time to look over this indictment, your thoughts on what you have read . Well, its very familiar conspiracy to make, having, you mentioned, been part of a team of lawyers that litigated against the wisconsin Fraudulent Electors and two trump attorneys and so one of the things i was looking for in their our case resolved with a settlement, which included permanent injunctive relief, the electors are never to do this again. The attorneys are never to help them do it again, but it also resulted in a release of some 15, 1600 emails and Text Messages that show the genesis of the scheme and what i saw in this arizona indictment is a lot of the things i saw in those Text Messages. So this scheme was concocted in wisconsin by Trump Campaign attorney jim troupe is and his friend, Kenneth Chesebro. Yes, Kenneth Chesebro who has been pleaded guilty in georgia, who is unindicted Co Conspirator number four in this arizona indictment. He is the one who came up with the idea, he had the beginning as of the idea just five days after the election, his first email to mr. Troupe is saying what about if an alternate slate of electors shows up on january 6th, throwing things into chaos unless the State Legislatures then decide who the slate should before, we could throw things into such chaos that the vote would go to the house and what that means is the vote by the house, under the 12th Amendment, when there is no winner, means every state gets one vote, it is not all 450 and at that time, it was a 26 State Majority and that would have meant the election went to trump so what i saw then, in this indictment, is the communications after mr. Troupe is sent these memos that he asked mr. Chesebro to write up to the white house. Forest epstein then said, hey, can you replicate this in the other states . And that is what set mr. Chesebro off, again, unindicted coconspirator in a number for this indictment, i am certain, based on the allegations in the indictment, to working so closely with people like kelly ward and also attorneys in arizona, like jack, willing jack to make this happen in arizona. Tom, when you worked on the jan. 6 a committee and helped draft that final report, did you think, when you are working on the committee, that there would be downstream effects of state criminal investigations happening after your committees work . You know, i think there should have been these downstream effects. The bottom line is is a conspiracy that cut across seven states, right . Trump and his coconspirators try to steal or nullify the Electoral Votes because they lost the popular vote, trump lost the popular vote in the states. This is now the third state, arizona is, where they brought criminal charges against the Co Conspirators picked though not trump himself and when i was reading this indictment, chris, to me it reads like a middleof theroad indictment. So in georgia you have the Rico Conspiracy case all the way up to trump is charged in georgia. In michigan, you have these charges brought against just the fate electors but none of the coconspirators led them down that path now here in arizona you have the fake electors charge plus these Co Conspirators on top of that, including a number of the people who actually brought, led them down this false path, except for Kenneth Chesebro who mary notes is an unindicted Co Conspirator. He is consistently not indicted here but they really delayed the groundwork for the fake electors scheme. On the subcommittee, one of the things i learned is how much evidence the coconspirators were able to hide from us, they hid the December 6th 2020 memo. Chesebro made it very clear that the tent of the fake electors had nothing to do with being contingent on Election It Litigation Outcomes or State Legislators flipping the