Plus, another weekend, another threat from Donald Trump to jail his political opponents if he wins in november. And also today, Andrew Wiseman is here to talk about Judge Measure mechans decision. Okay, everyone. Here we go. We are 58 days officially out from the election. We are two days out from the first debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. And as if we needed any more evidence of just how important that first Facetoface Meeting could be, weve got plenty more in just the past few hours this morning. A Brand New poll from the New York Times out just this morning, shows the race virtually tied. Not a huge surprise. As weve said many times on the show, national polls dont matter. Weve also got Brand New Head Tohead polls in some Battleground States as well. Here they are from cbs News. Michigan, harris up 5149. Pennsylvania, tied. Wisconsin, harris up 5149. All within the margin of error. Look, Kamala Harris had an incredible summer. Incredible. No one should deny that, and momentum has brought so many democrats and democratic leading momentum back onboard. That is all incredibly important. But guys, this race is going to be really tight. Its tight right now. It was always going to be. Which makes the stakes on tuesday pretty high. Its also an opportunity for harris. Ill talk about that. When Harris And Trump walk out on that stage, its going to be the first time theyll ever actually meet in person. I know. When i heard that, it kind of bends the mind, especially when you remember a big reason they havent met is because trump didnt show up to the peaceful transition of power after he wrapped up his attempted coup. But when they do finally meet and debate again in just two days, there are going to be so many things to watch out for. Heres some of them. First, how harris responds to trumps attacks. We know hes going to attack her. Of course, he is. We know many of his attacks will be false, racist, sexist, all of the things. This is his seventh time on a national Debate Stage. We certainly know how all of this goes. What will she do in response . Remember, we did get a little bit of a hint in her first sit down interview since becoming a nominee. He suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes. Questioning, a Core Part of your identity. Yeah. And the same old tired playbook. Next question, please. Thats it . Thats it. I mean, i love that response. It also fitting into the smart strategy of kind of shrugging him off and barely giving him the time of day, probably making him completely insane. Its also part of making trump small, not building him up as this giant insurmountable guy. Its also different when the guy youre belittling is standing next to you on the Debate Stage, but if theres one Thing Weve learned, its that cutting trump down to size gets under his skin. That is a very powerful tool. People who already like Kamala Harris will love that. Will love those moments when she does that. It will trend everywhere. But remember, she needs to do more than she needs to gain. She needs more than her current level of support in order to win the election. And right now, people still want to know more about her. According to that New York Times poll i referenced out this morning, 28 of likely voters say they needed to know more about harris. Thats a huge opportunity for her. It means she cant just cut trump down into the debate, thats appealing to some people. Its not going to be appealing to people she needs to win over. She also needs to lean into her voters. Bringing more people onboard. Part of that is presenting herself as the candidate who will bring about change. According to that same New York Times poll, 25 say harris represents change, while more than 50 say trump does. That doesnt mean shes got to run away from all that shes accomplished in the biden harris. Showing that she represents something new, even something joyful, joyful is a good thing. While the other guy is just an old, confused, negative dog with no new tricks. To that point, heres what James Carville wrote just this week. Throughout my nearly 40 years in the Campaign War rooms, through every Election Loss and victory, One Thing Remains consist ent. Basically, everybody wants change. Harris has a big opportunity, a big one on Tuesday Night to show the american people that she is that next chapter, which she said yesterday in pittsburgh, is her goal for this debate. Whats the one thing you want to really get across to him . Well, theres a lot. But look, its time to turn the page on the divisiveness. Its time to bring our country together. Chart a new way forward. And for anyone paying close attention was probably watching right now, i think its safe to say the contrast between those two candidates is already quite clear. Were going to do fine. Were all in this together. I never met her and never touched her. Im here in pittsburgh here and i just admire your work. I look at a woman and i start grabbing her and kissing her and making out with her. Whats the chances of that happening . Please, deliver a message to your teacher. Youre going to say the Vice President asked me to deliver this message. Heres the message. Thank you for being a teacher. Frankly, i know youre going to say its a terrible thing to say, but it couldnt have happened. It didnt happen. And she would not have been the chosen one. I mean harris lifts up and supports women, while trump lashes out at them and says all those creepy things he just said. She also vows to fight for the working people, while trump is fighting for himself. She represents the future, he represents the past. She is the Prosecutor And Trump is the convicted felon. That choice is it. It also needs to be made Crystal Clear on Tuesday Night. Two candidates literally standing Side By side on a Debate Stage. There are very few people who know what its like to run a president ial campaign during the gauntlet, and even fewer know how to win. Thank you for being with me this morning, James Carville. Thank you for being with me. You wrote this very compelling piece for the New York Times and you wrote in there, that there are quote, i quoted from it already in the show, there are three imperatives for Kamala Harris if she wants to win in november. One is to help trump hurt himself in the debate, which sounds to me like, get under his skin so he says, or does something crazy. Tell us more about that. It certainly means that, and it certainly means contrast with him. This is him, this is me. I think you made the money point. People know who Trump And Harris is. People know what trump is. They dont yet know what Vice President harris is. If she can successfully fill out the what, she has some upside here. Some real upside, and i think thats very important. She can gain more or lose more. Trumps going to be at 48, No Matter What he does. She can either be at 52 or 46. Its kind of a choice. By the way, jen, i never try to predict things. I said when it started its going to be a close election. I got attacked as being a Debbie Downer and whats james doing . Of course, No Ones attacking me anymore. I think shes going to do really well on Tuesday Night. I really do. My expectations are high. She has the right people for debate prep, im very encouraged by what im hearing, and i have very high expectations. I do. You should never say that, but ive just said it because i mean it. We love candor. I agree with you. Shes a good debater. Shes got good, smart, fierce people prepping her for the debate so thats all true. And its going to be interesting to watch. In terms of what defines an affective debate, its not just about winning a debate. Winning a debate doesnt win an election, but what helps her . She largely avoided attacking trump directly, she kind of brushed off the question. I loved that answer in that moment. I think that worked in that moment. Part of her objective is to continue introducing herself. Like to 28 of the likely voters who say they still need to know more about her, according to the New York Times poll. How should she balance hitting trump, which democrats will love, and people who already love her will love and focus on her own message in this debate . Is there overlapping . Is there a balance needed . My dad was a Champion College Boxer at lsu. He would teach me how to box and he would say Throw A Combo and get out. Come back in, Throw A Combo and get out. She can hit him, but dont dwell on it. Success is going to be defined, the people think they know what she is, better Wednesday Morning than they did tuesday morning. And its not always going to be favorable, but in a more favorable light. If she accomplishes that, thats the biggest thing she can do. And again, on chesters advice, go in, Throw A Combo, get out. Its a very Harry Reid reference. Im very into the boxing references. We used to go to fights together, yeah. He would love that. This is a piece in your oped that i completely agree with. You and i both know something about Working For Change candidates who won. Both clinton and barack obama, separate years apart. But she has kind of a disadvantage in that poll in terms of presenting herself as the change candidate. Polls are imperfect, but it is an interesting thing to be clear at, if youre her. How does she do that, while still being proud of what shes accomplished, but showing shes the turn the Page Candidate in this debate, which is a big opportunity. Right. If you read the piece and as you know, you have to supplemented the biden. You have to come up some new ideas. I think shes starting to do that. Its the old line, the president left the building to build on with, not to sit on. Tend to be more aggressive here. You just signal that youre new, you can be your own person. She has the opportunity to do that. By the way, im almost certainly going to do that. If they dont, theyre pretty bright people, and to not do that would just be criminally, politically stupid. Shes got to do some of that. She looks different. She feels different, but people need to hear different too. That will be an interesting thing to watch. Let me ask you, i didnt think wed ever hear Dick Cheney endorsing a democratic candidate for president. Its important to note just how significant this is. This is Dick Cheney was kind of the opposite of anything democratic candidates have one on for quite some time. This week, Liz Cheney, and Dick Cheney both announced they will be voting for harris. Heres something Liz Cheney said, i think republicans should hear. I want to play it. There is absolutely no chance that Ronald Reagan would be supporting Donald Trump. Donald trump doesnt stand for any of the things that Ronald Reagan did. Shes been bold. Shes not afraid to be out there. Good for her. I think one of the questions i have for you on the political front, is who do the Cheney Endorsements appeal to . Who will it impact . If youre the harris campaign, what do you do with it in the ideal scenario . First of all, the combination of cheney, Vice President and Liz Cheneys endorsement,ing i think its going to give license to some traditional republicans, probably more affluent, who didnt like trump, but never voted for a democrat saying okay, i can do this. It has the potential to be very helpful. I could see some of that on the main line. I could see some of that, you know in parts of phoenix, political parts. I could see some of that, buckhead. Theres plenty of places where we might lose 6337. We might lose 6040 over a period of time, that accumulates. We know that. The theory that small changes lead to big results is absolutely true. Yeah. Go ahead. I think there are people who say, man, ive got to hold my nose, i dont know if i can do that. Will say Dick Cheney is doing it. Maybe i can. I saw Nikki Haley on another network this morning, oh, my god. She was talking about how much she loved taiwan and pointed out that trump said let china do what she wants, and she started talking about afghanistan. Does that woman have any courage at all . If she does, its not evident to anybody. Shes not delivered on the Courage Quotent over the last several months. I dont know if shes more spineless or gutless, but one of the two certainly apply to her. James carville. Thank you for taking the time. I really appreciate it. Coming up, Andrew Wiseman and Dan Goldman are standing by in studio here. I cannot wait to talk to them after the avalanche of News this week. First, were not making this up, just another weekend for Donald Trump. Michael tyler is the Communications Director for the Harris Walz Campaign and he joins me next. 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Take a look at this recent poll. 89 of voters, 89 , want a plan to have candidates help supporting childcare. So trump was asked about it. Its a very clear question but what made absolutely no sense was his answer. If you win in november, can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable . And if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance . Well i would do that and were sitting down i was something, we had Senator Marco Rubio and my daughter ivanka was so impactful on this issue. Its a very important issue. I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that im talking about, that because, look childcare is childcare. Theres something, you have to have it. In this country, you have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that im talking about by taxes foreign nations at levels theyre not used to, but theyre get used to it very quickly, and its not going to stop them from doing business to us, but theyll have very substantial tax when they send products into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than anything were talking about, including childcare. I look forward to having no deficits in a short period of time, coupled with the reductions on Waste And Fraud and all of things that are going on in our country, because i have to stay with childcare, i want to stay with childcare. Including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that i just told you about. Okay. No one could possibly explain what hes talking about. Because it made absolutely no sense. Now, i should also tell you, in case you missed this, that Donald Trumps Running Mate also talked about childcare this week. J. D. Vances answer was definitely easier to understand, well give it to him. But also very concerning. One of the ways that you might be able to relieve a little pressure on people who are paying so much for daycare, maybe Grandma And Grandpa wants to help out a little more. Okay, these people have never dealt with childcare, or childcare issues in their lives. 89 of voters want a plan for affordable childcare. Donald trumpsplan is about tariffs, and vance says let Grandma And Grandpa do it. Now he also cant explain it, im not going to ask him to do it, but we just watched Trump Attempt to answer a policy question. What people are going to do for the american public, it was very uncomfortable territory for him, and uncomfortable to watch. But if trump says something incoherent like that on a Debate Stage, how is Kamala Harris going to respond . First you have j. D. Vance who essentially blames the family. And Donald Trump, if youre able to sort through everything that he said, his solution to this seems to be actually raising taxes on the Middle Class through his across the board tariffs. These are guys who clearly have spent no time thinking about the struggles of raising kids and raising a family. The Vice President is going to approach this with a fundamentally different approach. Shes already talked about the way we can help solve this is by lowering costs. You take the child tax credit, which maga republicans stripped away, shes going to restore and expand it, to lower costs for working and Middle Class families around this country. Loweringgrocery costs. Lowering housing costs, mortgage and rental assistance to bring down the cost of housing, and of course, making sure that we have a Tax Code that actually benefits working and Middle Class families, not those at the top, as Donald Trump wants to do, not just through his tariff proposal, Nothing But Tax cuts for ultra wealthy people like Donald Trump, more corporate giveaways. This is one of many contrasts that the american people will be able to see both on the Debate Stage and for the final two months of his campaign. The choice is very clear, obviously, it needs to be clear to people watching at home on the Debate Stage. I talked about this New York Times poll a little earlier in the show. 25 of people in that Poll Thought that Vice President harris would represent the change while a much larger percentage, more than 60 of likely voters let me start this again. More than 60 of likely voters said the next president should represent a major change from joe biden. But only 25 said the Vice President represented the change. Thats an opportunity. P