Tonight. The reidout has been nominated for outstanding breaking news. Well deserved. Congratulations to joy and the team. Tonight, i'm going to be with you for a very special edition of all in two hours. We have an exclusive vp kamala harris. Stephanie ruhle sat down with the vice president in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, for an indepth conversation about the economy. Today vice president harris made her economic pitch to voters ahead of election day also in pittsburgh. I intend to chart a new way forward. And grow america's middle class. Donald trump intends to take america backwards. For donald trump, our economy works best if it works for those who own the big skyscrapers, not those who actually build them. Not those who wire them. Not those who mop the floors. Vice president said more than 100 million americans will get a middle class tax break and vowed to lower housing costs. A sharp contrast to donald trump whose economic policies consist of new tariffs on all imported goods, tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, continuation of the first term, an unprecedented crackdown on immigration and mass deportation scheme, along with a grab bag of random proposals suggested by elon busk and other billionaires. An agenda that goldman sachs when analyzing said would weaken the economy. Analysts predicted very slight boost to gdp investment due to higher tax rates if vice president harris wins the white house. Polls show americans are starting to feel better about the economy today. It's been an interesting trend. Trump now averages a 6 percentage point edge on the economy, compared with a 12 point lead against president biden earlier this year. That's according to analysis of five polls before and after biden dropped out. Now, this trend line i think makes some sense, right? inflation is down significantly from those high peaks in 2022, 2023, the employment rate remains unemployment rate remains near historic lows. But at the same time, many critical swing voters still don't see how they will personally benefit from the democratic party's economic vision. Vice president harris wants them to think otherwise shedding more light on her economic plan to, as she says, grow the middle class in a one on one interview with stephanie ruhle. Here is that interview. Madame vice president, you just laid out your economic vision for the future. Yep. But still there are lots of americans who don't see themselves in your plans. For those who say these policies aren't for me. What do you say to them? well, if you are hard working, if you have the dreams and the ambitions and the aspirations of what i believe you do, you're in my plan. I have to tell you, i really love and am so energized by what i know to be the spirit and character of the american people. We have ambition. We have aspirations. We have dreams. We can see what's possible. We have an incredible work ethic. But not everyone has the access to the opportunities that allow them to achieve those things. But we don't lack for those things. But not everyone, you know, gets handed stuff on a silver platter. And so my vision for the economy, i call it an opportunity economy, is about making sure that all americans, wherever they start, wherever they are, have the ability to actually achieve those dreams and those ambitions, which include for middle class families just being able to know that their hard work allows them to get ahead, right? i think we can't we shouldn't aspire to have an economy that just allows people to get by. People want to do more than just get by, they want to get ahead. I come from the middle class. My mother raised my sister and me. She worked hard. She saved up. By the time i was a teenager, she was able to buy our first home. And you know, homeownership for too many people in our country now is elusive. You know, gone is the day of everyone thinking they could actually live the american dream. So part of my vision for the economy is let's deal with some of the everyday challenges that people face and address them with common sense solutions, such as affordable housing. Over the last four years, there have been tremendous economic wince and you've just laid out a big plan, but still polling shows that most likely voters still think donald trump is better to handle the economy. Why do you think that is? well, here is what i know in terms of the facts. Donald trump left us with the worst economy since the great depression, when you look at, for example, the employment numbers. It was during covid and employment was to high because we shut down the government, we shut down the country. Even before the pandemic, he lost manufacturing jobs by most people's estimates at least 200,000. He lost manufacturing plants, ask the autoworkers how he lost auto plants. We have grown over 20 new auto plants. He has an agenda. Let's just deal with right now going forward, not to mention what happened in the past. He has an agenda that would include making more difficult for workers to earn overtime. An agenda that would include cutting off access to small business loans for small businesses. An agenda that includes tariffs to the point that the average working person will spend 20% more on everyday necessities. And an estimated $4,000 more a year on those everyday necessities. To the point that top economists in our country, from nobel laureates, to people at moodies and goldman sachs have compared my plan with his and said my plan would grow the economy. His would shrink the economy. Some of them have actually assessed that his plan would increase inflation and invite a recession by the middle of next year. So, the facts remain that donald trump has a history of taking care of very rich people. And i'm not mad at anybody for being rich. But they should pay their fair share. But tax cuts for the billionaires and top corporations in our country. And then not really paying much attention to middle class families. My perspective, on the economy, is when you grow the middle class, america's economy is stronger. And there's empirical evidence to prove my point correct. Then let me ask you about taxes because lots of people will say, i don't like donald trump, but he cut my taxes. He didn't just cut corporate taxes, he cut individual taxes. Now that expires next year. And there's some people confused saying i don't know what's going to happen next year. Under a harris administration, at what income level should someone expect their taxes to go up and that state and local tax deduction that's currently capped and matters to a lot of people in blue states, are you going to lift that cap? so, first of all, when it relates to anybody making less than $400,000 a year, your taxes will not go up. Your taxes will not go up. And in fact, under my plan, taxes for 100 million americans will actually be cut, including $6,000 a year for young couples, for the first year of their child's life in a tax cut, a tax credit essentially. By expansion of the child tax credit. Why is that? because during the first year of a young couple, of a person's child's life, they are going to need help buying a crib, buying a car seat. And we all benefit when they're actually able to do what they naturally want to do to take care of their child. Expanding that child tax credit or you mentioned housing before, giving that extra money for a first home, if you can't raise corporate taxes, or if gop takes control of the senate, where do you get the money to do that? do you still go forward with those plans and borrow? but we're going to have to raise corporate taxes. And we're going to have to raise we're going to have to make sure that the biggest corporations and billionaires pay their fair share. That's just it. It's about paying their fair share. I'm not mad at anyone for achieving success. But everyone should pay their fair share. And it is not right that the teachers and the firefighters that i meet, everyday across our country, are paying a higher tax than the richest people in our country. Bill gates just said this week, if he was in charge of taxes he would have paid more. How do you find that line to make sure corporations are paying their leaving our country? i work with a lot of ceos. I have spent a lot of time with ceos. I'm going to tell you that the business leaders who are actually part of the engine of america's economy, agree that people should pay their fair share. They also agree that when we look at a plan, such as mine, that is about investing the middle class, investing in new industries, investing in bringing down costs, invest in entrepreneurs like small businesses that the overall economy is stronger and everyone benefits. Part of my plan for the economy is investing in new industries in a way that we have active partnership with the private sector. I've worked with the private sector my entire career. Even as vice president working with some of the biggest banks and biggest tech companies to increase by billions of dollars the money going into community banks to increase access to capital for small businesses. Why do those biggest corporations and ceos do that, because they know those kinds of investments, like in our small businesses, in startups and entrepreneurs actually strengthens america's economy overall and everyone benefits. So this is not about bilking anybody, but it is certainly about saying, let's make sure that we create opportunities for everyone to grow wealth. I believe that it is not sufficient and it should not be our goal to just make sure everyone is working. That should be the baseline. That should be a given. And let's create an economy where people have the ability to buy a home, to start a business, to take a nice vacation from time to time. Right? for people who want to buy a home, yes. Getting a $25,000 kicker would be great. But it's not just affording a home. We don't have enough in this country. You're absolutely right. And one of the main problems are regulations and rules, strict, strict rules at a local level. How does the federal government cut through all that red tape and get down to, the suburbs of pittsburgh and say, we're going to have to build some affordable housing here. How do you connect the two? so you're absolutely right. So across our country people rightly are concerned about the cost of housing. So homeownership to your point. We need more supply. That is without any question part of the solution. Creating more supply under my plan includes creating tax incentives to work with the private sector and home builders. Part of my goal and the plan would be to create 3 million new housing units for rent and for ownership by the end of my first term. It includes also what we must do to cut red tape. You're absolutely right. It takes far too long and there's too much bureaucracy associated with home building. And i say that as a devote public servant. I know that we have to reduce the red tape and speed up what we need to do around building. And that is going to require working from the federal level with state and local governments. And it's going to be different in different places. Depending on the needs of that community, the needs of that local government, that municipality. But working in consultation and coordination and also around incentives we can create. For example, some of the work is going to be through what we do in terms of giving benefits and assistance to state and local governments around transit dollars. And looking wholistically at the connection between that and housing. And looking wholistically at the incentives we in the federal government can create for local and state governments to actually engage in planning and wholistic manner that includes prioritizing affordable housing for working people. Coming up, much more of stephanie ruhle's exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris on steel workers unions and her plans to go after price gouging. Cologuard? cologuard. 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There is not a new industry that i can imagine that is not going to require steel as a manufacturing of steal as a fundamental part of what it accomplishes. And having american workers in an american company manufacturing that steel for those new industries is going to be critically important, not only in terms of our economy, but also in the context of national security. Most people now realize if we didn't before the pandemic and the strain on supply chains and an overreliance on foreign manufacturing, that we have to be intentional about u. S. Based manufacturing. And of the products that we have to prioritize, steel is one of them. And that's always going to be my priority. Steel workers matter in this country. Unions matter. Yes. In 2016, donald trump connected with unions. He saw them. There was an emotional connection. But what he didn't do was deliver policy. In the last four years we have seen huge wins in this country for unions, but not all unions have gotten behind you. I want to understand when the teamsters decided not to endorse you, what was the reasoning? what are they looking for? well, let me go back to our just previo