mariupol, something we have been talking about a lot as well, is the worst case scenario. i was speaking recently to an mp, ukrainian mp, and his parents were from mariupol. he has not heard from them, and it is just the reality of what people, joe, are experiencing on the ground, just this absolute nightmare situation. , ., �* , ., situation. yes, that's right for some ordinary _ —— ordinary people experiencing the most _ —— ordinary people experiencing the most ternary circumstances. the footage — most ternary circumstances. the footage is — most ternary circumstances. the footage is clear — this is a concerted _ footage is clear — this is a concerted effort by the russians not 'ust concerted effort by the russians not just in_ concerted effort by the russians not just in variable but in other cities as well_ just in variable but in other cities as well to — just in variable but in other cities as well to destroy the population and the — as well to destroy the population and the infrastructure and the buildings and to lay waste —— in mariupot — buildings and to lay waste —— in mariupol. any longer that continues, the more _ mariupol. any longer that continues, the more devastating will be for the people _ the more devastating will be for the people of— the more devastating will be for the people of ukraine. the hope is that, at some _ people of ukraine. the hope is that, at some stage, the russians will,