happen in ukraine because of those ties and potential endgame for russia, if not, how worried are you about that repeating itself here? i do believe that there is something to do— do believe that there is something to do with — do believe that there is something to do with dictator— do believe that there is something to do with dictator psychology- do believe that there is something to do with dictator psychology and| to do with dictator psychology and how dictators _ to do with dictator psychology and how dictators react _ to do with dictator psychology and how dictators react when - to do with dictator psychology and how dictators react when they're i how dictators react when they're faced _ how dictators react when they're faced with — how dictators react when they're faced with resistance. _ how dictators react when they're faced with resistance. my- how dictators react when they're - faced with resistance. my experience handling _ faced with resistance. my experience handling the — faced with resistance. my experience handling the first _ faced with resistance. my experience handling the first two years - faced with resistance. my experience handling the first two years of - faced with resistance. my experience handling the first two years of the i handling the first two years of the crisis _ handling the first two years of the crisis taught — handling the first two years of the crisis taught me _ handling the first two years of the crisis taught me a _ handling the first two years of the crisis taught me a lot— handling the first two years of the crisis taught me a lot of— handling the first two years of the crisis taught me a lot of lessons l crisis taught me a lot of lessons that i_ crisis taught me a lot of lessons that i think— crisis taught me a lot of lessons that i think policymakers - crisis taught me a lot of lessons that i think policymakers now. crisis taught me a lot of lessons . that i think policymakers now could really _ that i think policymakers now could really apply — that i think policymakers now could really apply to _ that i think policymakers now could really apply to our _ that i think policymakers now could really apply to our ukraine. - that i think policymakers now could really apply to our ukraine. some l that i think policymakers now could i really apply to our ukraine. some of them _ really apply to our ukraine. some of them being — really apply to our ukraine. some of them being for— really apply to our ukraine. some of them being for example _ really apply to our ukraine. some of them being for example that- really apply to our ukraine. some of them being for example that time i really apply to our ukraine. some of them being for example that time is not on _ them being for example that time is not on our— them being for example that time is not on our side _ them being for example that time is not on our side. it's— them being for example that time is not on our side. it's usually- them being for example that time is not on our side. it's usually on - not on our side. it's usually on side _ not on our side. it's usually on side of— not on our side. it's usually on side of the _ not on our side. it's usually on side of the aggressor, - not on our side. it's usually on side of the aggressor, or- not on our side. it's usually on side of the aggressor, or a - not on our side. it's usually on - side of the aggressor, or a dictator in this— side of the aggressor, or a dictator in this case — side of the aggressor, or a dictator in this case because _ side of the aggressor, or a dictator in this case because they— side of the aggressor, or a dictator in this case because they have - side of the aggressor, or a dictator in this case because they have no i in this case because they have no regard for— in this case because they have no regard for civilian _ in this case because they have no regard for civilian life _ in this case because they have no regard for civilian life and - in this case because they have no regard for civilian life and they i regard for civilian life and they will usually _ regard for civilian life and they will usually fight _ regard for civilian life and they will usually fight until- regard for civilian life and they will usually fight until the - regard for civilian life and they will usually fight until the last| will usually fight until the last man— will usually fight until the last man standing _ will usually fight until the last man standing if— will usually fight until the last man standing if it _ will usually fight until the last man standing if it means- will usually fight until the last man standing if it means they will usually fight until the last - man standing if it means they can win _ man standing if it means they can win and — man standing if it means they can win. and running— man standing if it means they can win. and running for— man standing if it means they can win. and running for president. man standing if it means they can. win. and running for president putin is critical— win. and running for president putin is critical because _ win. and running for president putin is critical because without _ win. and running for president putin is critical because without some - is critical because without some kind of— is critical because without some kind of wind _ is critical because without some kind of wind that _ is critical because without some kind of wind that he _ is critical because without some kind of wind that he can- is critical because without some kind of wind that he can bring i is critical because without some i kind of wind that he can bring back to moscow. — kind of wind that he can bring back to moscow. it— kind of wind that he can bring back to moscow, it could _ kind of wind that he can bring back to moscow, it could hurt _ kind of wind that he can bring back to moscow, it could hurt his- kind of wind that he can bring back to moscow, it could hurt his futurej to moscow, it could hurt his future political _ to moscow, it could hurt his future political career _ to moscow, it could hurt his future political career or— to moscow, it could hurt his future political career or his _ to moscow, it could hurt his future political career or his legacy. - to moscow, it could hurt his future political career or his legacy. so i political career or his legacy. so there _ political career or his legacy. so there are — political career or his legacy. so there are parts _ political career or his legacy. so there are parts of— political career or his legacy. so there are parts of what - political career or his legacy. so there are parts of what simon i there are parts of what simon said that i_ there are parts of what simon said that i agree — there are parts of what simon said that i agree with. _ there are parts of what simon said that i agree with. the _ there are parts of what simon said that i agree with. the difference ii that i agree with. the difference i believe _ that i agree with. the difference i believe the — that i agree with. the difference i believe the one _ that i agree with. the difference i believe the one difference - that i agree with. the difference i believe the one difference that i believe the one difference that gives _ believe the one difference that