rather than long—term reforms that will be tough politically. there are voices on the left, - i would say, who would say that actually this is a false . debate, the rishi sunak position that we have to keep public debt within 100%, - which is the highest, as mina pointed out, for many decades, that actually, the reality is i we have got our own currency, we can print as much money. as we like and the bank- of england is actually tacitly funding the uk government, so this is a false choice, - that is one point of view which is quite prevalent| at the moment. for many decades, that actually, the reality is i we have got our own currency, we can print as much money. as we like and the bank- of england is actually tacitly funding the uk government, so this is a false choice, - that is one point of view which is quite prevalent| at the moment. the treasury would say that's not the case, - and you have to pretend you've for a plan for public _ finances just to keep i international investors, who by the way, lend the uk government this money, - you've got to keep them believing that you still . believe in fiscal rectitude and cutting your cloth - according to your means. that c word again,