which is not going to stop, which is due to many different reasons and is taking place throughout the whole world. let me take a different sort of area of difficulty and challenge for the eu, and again, ask about coherence and unity. it's something which, as economics minister in spain, you've had to deal very closely with. that is the response to the covid—i9 pandemic. do you believe that europe's citizens have seen in the european union, a truly sort of urgent, coordinated, efficient response to the covid challenge? i'm very happy to respond, yes. see, surveys suggest that, actually, most europeans don't see it that way. there was a major survey done by the european council on foreign relations. it found what they described as a stuttering eu vaccine roll—out had dealt a blow to public confidence in the union's capabilities.