up in criminalisty. what would you say to those people who would say there are no circumstances that would justify negotiating with paramilitaries, or those operating under the banner of paramilitaries? it's very easy to have your principle from a distance. but this is the practicalities, this is real life. so you can't abandon someone who has the risk of a criminal record only for wanting a freezer in their home. we're talking about the bare essentials of life. i believe we have to step in and be practicle about it. we have to help out. trusted intermediaries in the community have negotiated with the paramilitaries. what's your reaction to that and where is the police in all of this? it is really important that the community, um, engage with the police and help us identify those that are controlling, or seeking to control and exploit members of their own community. we will take robust action, we will investigate, where there is allegations