do they not? and they're always associated with industries. william fairey band was an engineering company. that's right, from stockport. mines had their own brass band, steel works and so on. so it's the music of industry and of heavy industry. and i wanted that to transplant music that was post—industrial, that was effectively digitally made, onto the brass band. and you tell this story, and i made a diagram called the history of the world, which basically tried to create a narrative of british history through music. it's a flow diagram on the wall. yeah, it's a flow diagram that connects these two very... ..on the face of it, differing sort of music forms, but actually they're totally connected because it's all about industry, it's about people's social lives, it's about community and so on, and it's about geography. and what you were doing was, was more than just a concept, an idea or a diagram. you were literally making these brass... encouraging brass bands to learn these rave tunes... yes. ..and then playing them live. they were appearing at gigs, weren't they? yeah, they played dance music festivals. they still do.
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