holding veterans benefits hostage and very soon social security checks won't be able to go out. kids are getting kicked out of head start. scientific research is being stopped. all because the republicans are throwing a hissy fit about a law that passed three years ago. doesn't make any sense. >> alex? >> well, i hate to disagree with a fellow republican or conservative. but when a warning, when your country is put on a warning list for its credit rating it gets your attention. i think it's gotten the attention of a lot of republican congressmen tonight and democrats as well. i take exception with paul that this is only a republican problem. when democrats negotiate it's called negotiations. when republicans negotiate it's called blackmail. but we're at a point now where i think you're going to see republicans open up the vote on the house floor soon this, week. >> do you think it was a mistake to tie all this to obama care before? >> i wouldn't have done that. we just don't -- the math doesn't work. we don't have enough votes to do that. as a matter of fact, i think