>> hopeful? >> really taken aback by the young people i met who had on a thursday, thought we're going to be stuck with gadhafi forever, on friday, thought we saw the revolution started. build weapons out of hair dryers and cross bows, bought soviet tanks with molotov cocktails. they're frank about their aspirations, they know it's going to be a mess. they're building a country from scratch where all authority came from one man. they're realistic that will there are people out there that wish to do us harm. it will take them maybe five, ten years to get their act together. i think we were right to help them. the people who say we were better off with gadhafi in power