collection activity available to all the members of congress, not just all the members of the intelligence committee. >> ari, all the members of congress, not just all the members of the intelligence committee. now that this debate is happening in the public, does the president have to communicate more with the american people and the nsa declassify a little bit of information, does it have to do more is that too risky? >> i think the president does need to communicate more. this is very controversial. people are divided on it. when they have people in his own party against it, the president needs to bring the paul begalas over the world over. i want to see bipartisanship as broad and as deep as possible. it is the president's job to make the case for his policies, even if his base doesn't like it. the president can do it, it just doesn't seem to be where he wants to put his political capital. >> paul, maybe the president won't make you a convert to the program, but in the political forum we saw today, the chairman