estimate and moved a little bit. what i'm saying is is that if you don't do something about the debt ceiling, that's important. if you don't do something about that, you could be in a situation where social security benefits and other social insurance benefits don't go out on time on november 1. that's unacceptable politically. the only reason we got social security reform in 1983 is because the benefits wouldn't go out on time. we're in a different situation today than we were there but the political unacceptability of that is still the same. >> on day ten, the end of day ten for folks that want a deal, this is the closest we've been in ten days, right? >> it's progress, we can agree on that. >> good news, i'll have a drink on that tonight. in case you're still looking for a lonely voice of reason, i give you a lonely voice of reason. >> have mercy upon us, oh, god and save us from the madness.