staffed to take care of astronauts that are on or bit. if there was a problem, obviously, they could call them back immediately and do what we always do at nasa, houston, we have a problem and take care of it. >> washington, we have a problem. dale huls, good to speak you, you speak in a rational and sensible manner, which i appreciate, thank you. >> thank you very much. i want to bring in two people that disagree on the shut down. on the right connie mac the former congresswoman. connie mac, you can take any view you like but in the end 11 days in and the government is still shut down. it's pretty shameful, isn't it? >> simple in what way, the government shut down. >> shameful, shameful. >> oh, shameful. i'm sorry, shameful. it's shameful but this has been brewing for a long time. you know, dale just talked about it how there is a c.r. after