>> unbelievable, a judge who actually looked at the case, a judge who was familiar with the case made a decision. if you're going to say the judge was corrupt, then have ammunition for that -- but some judge listened to the facts of >> mark, doesn't this -- you this case. know, there is so much commentary how there is a separate system of justice. if you have money -- >> there is. >> isn't this a prime example of this? >> yes. >> you not only get better lawyers and doctors, you have your own defense which is being rich -- >> made up. understand something, i agree with you anderson and you're right, i always argue this and say it. there are two levels of playing fields, so to speak, it's not a different defense. this is just something that's cute that the media catches on to just like the twinky defense. all this is is a way to characterize what the kid's problem is, that the kid has never had any consequences. >> and still doesn't have any -- >> and still -- sunny, if you let me finish, i'll get there.