these are the hard core. they are the cabinet that will go back to the fight and try to kill americans. that is a lousy deal. and let me say, again, i said to you twice it depends on the details. these details are terrible. and by the way, could i just say if a sailor falls overboard, a captain picks hum up no matter what. i'm an old navy person. but also captain doesn't steer his ship into waters where the ship could be sunk. which is exactly what is happening in this case. so i'm sometimes entertained by mr. carney quoting me, but i wish he would quote me in full context. >> there has been a lot of criticism of the deal from members of congress. everyone agrees your voice carries an extraordinary amount of weight because of your experiences. at the very least as a pow in vietnam. how do you reconcile the fact that you think this was a bad