their lines are stretched over many, many miles. and the question is can the iraqi forces take advantage of that, push back, push isis back, and also maintain their hold on baghdad. >> and yet we've seen actually no evidence that iraqi government forces are able to actually retake territory that isis forces have taken. i mean, can the prime minister there, al maliki rejected today, calls for an emergency unity government. you have met with him a number of times. i doubt you were surprised by that. >> no, not at all, anderson. in fact, when i saw him just a couple of months ago in march right before the iraqi elections, i found a prime minister who was very confident of his position, expecting to win big in the elections, which of course he did. and not really planning on making any concessions to anybody. in fact, mostly talking about his rivals as all being agents of foreign governments. >> does he really believe that? does he see no need to reach out to sunnis, to kurds? >> he seems to really believe