change. sometimes things change and she does appear to have a later state fire wall. >> john, if she is or her campaign is studying these numbers and of course, somebody there is, if she is in herself, what are her big debate goals? >> in any debate you want to fortify strengths. look in south carolina alone among african americans in our poll in south carolina, secretary clinton gets 6 0% with the vice president in the race. if joe biden doesn't run, she jumps up to 84%. she wants to increase her strength with latinos and african americans. other strengths, viewed as best able to handle big issues. talk about the economy. talk about health care. talk about the middle class. talk about foreign policy. she's perceived as a stronger candidate and this number goes up and down depending what state but generally considered the strongest general election candidate for democrats and wants to make the case. this is optics and tone as