have brought up to the president of ukraine. sent by marlin bran do you, he's clearly to talk about the bide dense and focus on that. >> this isn't rocket science here. rudy giuliani has been trump's hench man to either confuse the issue or try to raise political arguments with the issue. i don't think there's any question that both the president and rudy giuliani's attorney and in order to give them something after on joe biden.