the president's phone call with the ukrainian president problematic but the president has to get over his debunked conspiracy theory of the 2016 election involving ukraine. do you agree with what bossert is saying? >> look, bossert's a credible guy. i said that on tv last night. i respect his opinion. but let's not -- what he was talking about related to the dnc servers, not relating to the debunked theory related to dnc servers and not relating to the phone call with the president of ukraine. that being said, i agree there is some hysteria -- >> the phone call with the president of ukraine was asking -- i mean, of the two asks, it was look into, investigate the debunked theory, the, quote, made-up theory about ukraine and the servers. that was the first ask. the second was do me a favor on -- do me a favor on that. then the other ask was, you know, was about biden. >> looking into the biden issue. yeah. look, it's the president's prerogative to ask folks to look into corruption as he sees it.