produce documents, that should, one, count as evidence of obstruction of the inquiry and then, two, it should be almost an admission that the blocked testimony would actually corroborate the whistle-blower's allegations. and in this case it's easy to see why they don't want mr. sondland has that transcrip. >> and you were asking a generic is it okay for a president to -- >> simple yes or no. >> we know what she was doing. chris. >> we all know what's going on because we've been here before. i think the frustration for normal people, not us, is it seems tluk same game, different jerseys. it seems during theclipten impeachment, they were saying