do any of you doubt what they said? yet not all of you think it was a bad day for the president. they said some things that were pretty negative about the president. >> they did. but they were only able to say what they heard or what they gleaned through multiple different venues. that's what i mean about the president not planning evidence to defend himself. >> that lead me to this question. you set it up very well. it's a catch 22, isn't it? republicans are saying you don't have first-hand knowledge. the trump administration isn't letting people with first hand only in testify. does that trouble you? >> yes. definitely. it reminds me of the secret courts of russia where i was born. you had people during the soviet union time they weren't allowed to bring them forward because the witnesses might discredit the government. >> i think the evidence, that was solidified in the answer. >> did you think the white house was making a mistake by telling
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