what do you think they should do? >> expand. i think it's important for the country to make a decision based on the whole body of evidence about the conduct of this presidency. not simply the phone call. i do think it would strengthen their case and i think the country really needs some sort of way to come to grips and peace with all of this that justice has been done. and that will be done through transparency and going the full -- did the expanding -- >> john. >> david we are taking a we can quick break and much coming up including the breaking news sclouf new reporting on the other side of the break that could spell trouble for rudy giuliani and president trump. (people talking) for every dollar you spend at a small business, an average of 67 cents stays local. shop small and watch it add up. small business saturday by american express is november 30th.