forth, kiersten, not just for this contract, but he's trying to get these guys to do work for him investigating the bidens, and then you tie in the u.s. ambassador. the list goes on and on. the questions just keep mounting. >> i also think -- let's remember back to what donald trump ran on, draining the swamp. this is just very swampy behavior, right. it also shows why it's not a good idea to have somebody out sort of freelancing, doing this shadow diplomacy that really is supposed to be handled by people who are appointed to positions in the u.s. government, who are held to the highest ethics standards that rudy giuliani is not holding himself to. so even if he didn't do anything illegal, he certainly did something improper. i mean, there is also this argument we keep hearing from trump people saying they weren't successful in their scheme, so it doesn't matter. you know, it seems that he was, you know, willing to do this. at least according to the