you don't have to name them, if you don't want. >> no, no, i'm not going to do that. just, they were very charming. and they -- they knew what they were doing. they knew how to talk to us. and -- but we kind of held back. and it's just -- it was just -- it was tense. and -- and we just made believe, you know, everything was fine. and we were very nice to them. for the most part. >> well, it was just tense because? >> because -- because we knew -- i think, because we knew they weren't sin veer. sin sincere. >> with us now, cnn political commentators, paul begala and scott jennings. the fact that some republicans would talk with this grieving mom of an officer, who is protecting them from attackers on january 6th. and -- and still, vote the way they -- they voted. does that surprise you at all? >> no. i'm not surprised. i mean, it was obvious, from the