the intelligence community has long identified hacktivists and criminals as a problem. c dan coats did when he was dni. i think, though, that what has been in the past considered an annoyance or irritation has now risen to the level of a genuine national security threat. when we've seen recent demonstrations of the impact this can have in the case of the pipeline seizure and the seizure of the meat processing plant. so this is a harbinger of what adversaries such as most notably the russians can do. so i think it's quite appropriate for the government to sound -- generate a sense of urgency about this in the public. >> the question becomes what do you do about it. chris, you recently tweeted saying there's no silver bullet or single action that will stop