ransomware gangs akin to the terrorist threat of 9/11. i think that's in part what you're hearing here. at the same time, you're seeing the deputy national security advisor, the deputy attorney general, the secretary of homeland, all making a very clear statement that ransomware is a top priority for this administration. >> director clapper, the 9/11 commission report, there were failures leading up to the attacks, one of the biggest the failure of imagination. is our government failing again on that front? are they doing enough? >> i don't think there's a failure of imagination here. the intelligence community has long identified hacktivists and criminals as a problem. dan coats did when he was dni. i think, though, that what has been in the past considered an annoyance or irritation has now risen to the level of a genuine